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Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:01 pm to Obtuse1
I agree 100% about legalization.
As for being subjected to smoke, there have been time periods when I've been subjected to cigarette smoke on a daily basis. I'm not kidding. I had a job last year with a company that was starting a new operation making a variety of products related to COVID. There were a group of workers that would smoke right at the entrance of the warehouse every day, multiple times a day. I told them if they didn't stop I was going to quit. I've got a lot of anecdotes like that. Even the brief occasions become common when you're in downtown areas and other areas where smokers suck their poison.
I've never had these kinds of issues with people smoking cannabis.
As for being subjected to smoke, there have been time periods when I've been subjected to cigarette smoke on a daily basis. I'm not kidding. I had a job last year with a company that was starting a new operation making a variety of products related to COVID. There were a group of workers that would smoke right at the entrance of the warehouse every day, multiple times a day. I told them if they didn't stop I was going to quit. I've got a lot of anecdotes like that. Even the brief occasions become common when you're in downtown areas and other areas where smokers suck their poison.
I've never had these kinds of issues with people smoking cannabis.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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The amount of damage alcohol causes the human body is beyond anything weed does. Ingesting weed in edible form is far safer than smoking weed and drinking alcohol. Drinking alcohol has far worse effects.
Could be true but the fact is that we don’t have enough info to know if you’re right or not about weed. Alcohol is clearly damaging to the body but not enough info on weed.
And here’s the other thing. There’s like only 2 people in the world that ONLY do weed. Everyone else does weed and alcohol and even other stuff. People who like to get wasted, get wasted.
So the comparison of the two is a silly argument.
Neither should be legal for health reasons but insofar as freedom to screw up your own health, have at it but please spare us the health benefits of weed.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:12 pm to FredBear
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Alcohol use doesn't affect others? Tell that to the people killed by drunk drivers.
A question based purely on my ignorance. Do we know if a person’s driving ability can be diminished by marijuana ingestion to the point of their being an “impaired” driver?
To the point of killing a carload of people riding in their vehicle or riding in another vehicle?
How do we know one way or the other? What’s “over the limit” vis a vis marijuana?
I’ve seen drivers put through driving maneuvers sober, then one beer, then two beers, and so on demonstrating the clear connection between alcohol ingestion and impaired driving. Has serious testing been done in this manner respecting marijuana?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:14 pm to tigergirl10
Moderate pot smokers' lung function better than nonsmokers
20-year study that was published in JAMA.
20-year study that was published in JAMA.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:27 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Alcohol is far worse in terms of impairment. The level of impairment will be dependent on tolerance level.
I wouldn't suggest someone drive impaired, but there's not much of an effect for someone with a high tolerance. But, eating cannabis may be different for some and cause more impairment.
I wouldn't suggest someone drive impaired, but there's not much of an effect for someone with a high tolerance. But, eating cannabis may be different for some and cause more impairment.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:34 pm to inadaze
That didn’t really answer his question 
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:35 pm to Geauxgurt
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that smoking the crap actually can affect other people while alcohol does not?
All you have to do is ban smoking in public.
Somebody smoking in private, or simply carrying marijuana does not harm you. Why do you hate freedom?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:41 pm to SlidellCajun
quote:Guess that'd be me and my wife.
There’s like only 2 people in the world that ONLY do weed.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:47 pm to Loup
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You're assuming that people who smoke weed are as trashy and inconsiderate as people who smoke cigarettes
From my experience they are, plus a helluva lot goofier and more annoying afterwards.
I’ve never touched weed in my life - to me it’s trashy and smells like wet arse. It’s not just the smoke - vehicles and rooms and clothing smell like it afterwards and it stinks. But hey, to each their own.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:53 pm to moontigr
As a rare weed smoker and a dude who loves booze I can tell you haven’t been around a lot of marijuana
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:53 pm to Sun God
He didn't ask a question. He asked five. I gave him a succint answer.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:57 pm to Sun God
I’ve been around plenty, although self-admittedly, I avoid it when at all possible. All of my friends smoked so it was pretty hard not to be around it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:58 pm to inadaze
I mean he obviously had one clear question
You just said it depends on the tolerance for each which I guess is technically an answer
You just said it depends on the tolerance for each which I guess is technically an answer
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:58 pm to SlidellCajun
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Neither should be legal for health reasons but insofar as freedom to screw up your own health, have at it but please spare us the health benefits of weed.
Our government has tried to eradicate one of the most useful plants on earth.
And I'd like to see were you got your numbers from.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:01 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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question based purely on my ignorance. Do we know if a person’s driving ability can be diminished by marijuana ingestion to the point of their being an “impaired” driver?
There are a lot of things can can lead to an impaired driver that has nothing to do with weed or alcohol.
You not getting enough sleep the night before makes you "impaired".
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An estimated 16.5 percent (one in six) of fatal crashes, 13.1 percent (one in eight) of crashes resulting in hospitalization, and 7 percent (one in fourteen) of all crashes in which a passenger vehicle is towed involve a drowsy driver.
Younger drivers age 16-24 were nearly twice as likely to be involved in a drowsy driving crash as drivers age 40-59.
Two out of three drivers involved in a drowsy driving crash were men.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:02 pm to moontigr
Fair enough. But it’s not some sort of instant mind eraser that makes you an immediate threat to society
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:04 pm to DarkDrifter
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was just stating that the OP's condescending start to a valid conversation is why it went sideways.. Granted this is the OT where most posters are as reasonable as 2 yr olds so I get it..
This inability to have a conversation over real topics from whatever side one may side on is why we are in this current social and political climate..
People have forgotten how to debate and come to mutual agreements.. Its all name calling and my way or the highway mentality today.. But thats a whole other seperate discussion altogether..
Well he's also spouting off legit refer madness bullshite.
So no, you can't have a legit convo with someone who has been brainwashed.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:04 pm to Sun God
I just smoked a weed and now I’m about to go terrorize my local Walmart with random garden tools I can’t help myself
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:05 pm to Sun God
Never claimed that. I honestly couldn’t care less, as long as it doesn’t affect me.
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