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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:01 pm to Darth_Vader
Are you going to acknowledge knowingly posting 10+ year old info and passing it off as 2019 facts to further your point when the actual facts would have not helped your point?
Once we get that acknowledged, maybe we can move on.
Once we get that acknowledged, maybe we can move on.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:02 pm to Darth_Vader
The amount of raw materials needed to have a considerable % of the US driving electric cars is impossible.
And would do more damage to the earth mining them than oil has ever done
And would do more damage to the earth mining them than oil has ever done
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:03 pm to oleheat
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BMW says electric cars will always be more expensive than gas, FWIW....The cost of the batteries will be steep.
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These kids won’t listen to this because the TV tells them electric cars are good and gas is bad. They remind me of the environmentals back in the 80s & 90s saying how we need to all swap from paper grocery bags to plastic because it took so many trees to produce paper bags. Well now 30 years later that great idea to “save the environment” has given us mountains of plastic bags that will sit in landfills for the next 1,000 or so years.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:03 pm to Darth_Vader
This is where Tesla cobalt comes from by the way...
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:05 pm to texag7
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The amount of raw materials needed to have a considerable % of the US driving electric cars is impossible.
And would do more damage to the earth mining them than oil has ever done
They don’t want to hear that.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:08 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:This coming from the guy trying to give us 10-15 year old info knowing he would be wrong if he gave up to date data.
They don’t want to hear that.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:09 pm to Darth_Vader
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These kids won’t listen to this because the TV tells them electric cars are good and gas is bad. They remind me of the environmentals back in the 80s & 90s saying how we need to all swap from paper grocery bags to plastic because it took so many trees to produce paper bags. Well now 30 years later that great idea to “save the environment” has given us mountains of plastic bags that will sit in landfills for the next 1,000 or so years.
I guess now is a bad time to tell them where plastic comes from....
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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And another question, why are we gonna do with all these batteries when they’ve reached the end of their life?
recycle them
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:11 pm to texag7
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The amount of raw materials needed to have a considerable % of the US driving electric cars is impossible.
And would do more damage to the earth mining them than oil has ever done
This might be true if we stopped all innovation today.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:11 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:11 pm to oleheat
quote:Possibly, but the difference in upfront cost for comparable types of cars can be made up for the EV with the long term savings of having the EV vehicle compared to the gas one.
BMW says electric cars will always be more expensive than gas, FWIW.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:16 pm to Salmon
Why hasn’t musk developed new battery tech. The stuff he’s using is decade + old
I thought he was a super genius
I thought he was a super genius
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:20 pm to texag7
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Why hasn’t musk developed new battery tech. The stuff he’s using is decade + old
What do you define as "new"? The batteries they are using now are much more efficient and last longer than 10 years ago.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:23 pm to shel311
It's like everything else, man.
You are going to have to substitute other limited resources in some fashion to make this transition- and rely on in the future to make it continue. I don't think it will lead to a happier planet as much as something else for world players to compete (fight) over- just like oil. I hate to sound negative- but that's the nature of the world we live in.
I'm certainly not afraid of new technology- I love the idea. But this won't be instantaneous....
You are going to have to substitute other limited resources in some fashion to make this transition- and rely on in the future to make it continue. I don't think it will lead to a happier planet as much as something else for world players to compete (fight) over- just like oil. I hate to sound negative- but that's the nature of the world we live in.
I'm certainly not afraid of new technology- I love the idea. But this won't be instantaneous....
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:24 pm to shel311
If we’ve learned anything about Musk he is rarely if ever accurate.
Tesla hasn’t met one single production projection he has put out.
Tesla hasn’t met one single production projection he has put out.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:25 pm to oleheat
quote:Not today, but in 10, 20, 50 years...
You are going to have to substitute other limited resources in some fashion to make this transition- and rely on in the future to make it continue. I don't think it will lead to a happier planet as much as something else for world players to compete (fight) over- just like oil. I hate to sound negative- but that's the nature of the world we live in.
quote:Exactly, not instaneous. But it is going to happen. Electronic vehicles 100% will be the majority of vehicles on the road at some point, that's just a matter of time.
I'm certainly not afraid of new technology- I love the idea. But this won't be instantaneous....
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:26 pm to texag7
quote:So you asked a question insinuating there was no answer. When I gave you an answer, you changed the subject.
If we’ve learned anything about Musk he is rarely if ever accurate.
Tesla hasn’t met one single production projection he has put out.
Ok, good talks.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:29 pm to oleheat
Haven't read the whole thread. Has anyone posted that ridiculous "study" that claimed a hummer was less harmful to the environment than a prius?
Someone went through the study and it had insano assumptions like the prius would last for 80k miles and the hummer would last close to 400k miles or something like that.
Someone went through the study and it had insano assumptions like the prius would last for 80k miles and the hummer would last close to 400k miles or something like that.
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