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Posted on 5/10/18 at 4:49 pm to Jim Rockford
I read something recently explaining how really we only have a small window of people who can truly work things like Excel because the kids now aren't using computers anymore.
So it isn't just old people.
But yes, having to do a bunch of stuff I'm not technically paid for by the client purely because they can't operate basic Microsoft programs makes me
So it isn't just old people.
But yes, having to do a bunch of stuff I'm not technically paid for by the client purely because they can't operate basic Microsoft programs makes me
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:04 pm to Sao
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smooth palmed ladyboy.
I'm stealing this insult and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:04 pm to TigerstuckinMS
He’ll cut off your internet
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:05 pm to cahoots
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I’m so tired of watching old people at work move in slow motion to put together an elementary spreadsheet in Excel. I was recently told not to use Index/Match because no one can check my work. The frick?
Some can’t even combine PDFs....
Old people, why do you suck at computers?
The full ignorance of millennials on display.
If you knew anything about what you're talking about, you'd realize how expensive Adobe is and how few people have the opportunity to get acquainted with certain Acrobat Pro features, and that it takes a while for Pro features to end up in Reader. Also, that many businesses don't update all the time. Then when they do, their employees are behind. If you come from a university, you've had access to this stuff because they purchase licensing to cover the whole student body on remote desktops etc.
If you were worth a shite as a human you would help your coworkers. I have worked in an environment with a lot of computer-challenged people - spending a couple minutes to help them, or taking 15-20 minutes to prepare a tip sheet to explain some functions will score you a lot of points.
One day when Gen Z is lapping you at work on some utility you haven't had the chance to become familiar with, maybe these lessons will finally sink in.
As for Excel - if you don't know how to utilize INDEX / MATCH in a manner that allows the original data and spreadsheet to be checked, while providing the outputs from the INDEX / MATCH, then you know far less about Excel than you think. LOL
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:06 pm to Walt OReilly
I literally spent 1 hour recently teaching a late 60's y/o nurse (new hire) how to assign herself 3 patients (normally, a 2 minute effort) on the computer so she can document what treatments/meds she administers. Assigning a patient involves searching for a patient's name in the patient database, assigning a RN code, then clicking a nurses name from a nursing database. Simple.
(Louisiana/NOLA hospitals have mandated computer charting since 2012 so I assumed she had some basic pc competence.)
I realized quickly how simple I had to break things down when I had to explain what a mouse/cursor were and what windows were, how to close/minimize windows, etc...
I guided her through the first two assignments which took 45 minutes, with slow, simple detailed repetitive instructions, step-by-step. She said "They said you were good at teaching, and that I should orient with you! You make it seem really simple". Plus she wrote down every step I mentioned!
Ok she seemed to get it, so I told her I was going to watch her assign herself the 3rd patient unprompted. If I did not stop her before she hit enter, she would have assigned her 3rd patient to a doctor in Baton Rouge at a sister facility!!! I mean it's one thing if she didn't realize she wasn't in the nurses database, as she was actually in the MD database, but why the frick would she randomly select a name that is not HER name??? The first thing she should have said was "Ok I'm lost. I don't see my name. Help!" Instead, she just clicked a random name, not close to hers, and was about to apply the selection by hitting enter. It makes no fricking sense.
I lost my patience assigning patients.
(Louisiana/NOLA hospitals have mandated computer charting since 2012 so I assumed she had some basic pc competence.)
I realized quickly how simple I had to break things down when I had to explain what a mouse/cursor were and what windows were, how to close/minimize windows, etc...
I guided her through the first two assignments which took 45 minutes, with slow, simple detailed repetitive instructions, step-by-step. She said "They said you were good at teaching, and that I should orient with you! You make it seem really simple". Plus she wrote down every step I mentioned!
Ok she seemed to get it, so I told her I was going to watch her assign herself the 3rd patient unprompted. If I did not stop her before she hit enter, she would have assigned her 3rd patient to a doctor in Baton Rouge at a sister facility!!! I mean it's one thing if she didn't realize she wasn't in the nurses database, as she was actually in the MD database, but why the frick would she randomly select a name that is not HER name??? The first thing she should have said was "Ok I'm lost. I don't see my name. Help!" Instead, she just clicked a random name, not close to hers, and was about to apply the selection by hitting enter. It makes no fricking sense.
I lost my patience assigning patients.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:07 pm to miamitiger
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They are like old computer, can only process so fast, each new generation has higher processing power (people and computers)
Yeah, that's not how it works.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:08 pm to Sao
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Try to write in cursive, Phaggot.
Tried to do this the other day. Looked like I had cerebral palsy
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:08 pm to cahoots
quote:I know the very basics of Excel and these old dudes think i'm a damn computer wizard.
’m so tired of watching old people at work move in slow motion to put together an elementary spreadsheet in Excel. I was recently told not to use Index/Match because no one can check my work. The frick? Some can’t even combine PDFs.... Old people, why do you suck at computers?
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:09 pm to starsandstripes
Not only that, but it was old farts who invented all of these fun toys! 
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:10 pm to cahoots
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Old people, why do you suck at computers?
it really isn't just old people. I know plenty of young people who suck too.
What gets me about old people and computers is they often won't bother to learn. Wait, young people do that too.
I have a 44 year old friend that refuses to use a computer in a job. He is unemployed.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:11 pm to cahoots
I retired at 63 and was adept at creating and maintaining my spreadsheets as well as absorbing other’s techniques into mine as necessary. So, Harrrrrumph to you! 
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:13 pm to Yewkindewit
Give the Governor a Harrrrrumph!!!
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:23 pm to cahoots
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cahoots
You outed yourself as nothing more than a secretary. Can you change a flat, Nancy?
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:30 pm to cahoots
quote:~Old People
Why do young people suck at marriage,car maintenance, finances, raising children....
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:40 pm to 777Tiger
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Can’t even tell us what time it is either!
or count change dumb young shits.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:45 pm to Walt OReilly
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Instead of criticizing them why not lend them a helping hand
Because they aren’t learning what’s actually happening and how to use it as a tool for the most part. When I explain it they aren’t grasping the overall concept just that I told them to click this and that and magically something happens. But if anything at all changes they are stuck again because hey never actually learned anything about Excel when I showed them. So I give up
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:51 pm to cahoots
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Old people, why do you suck at computers?
How old are "old people"? I'm 56 and people generally ask me for help with Excel as well as various other computer tasks. I will admit, though, that I'm the anomaly in my general age group. I've been tinkering with computers since the early 80s and have a technical background.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 5:58 pm to cahoots
Took me a while to read your post without my glasses but you can still go frick yourself
Posted on 5/10/18 at 6:00 pm to cahoots
At some point you are less involved with new tech. As time goes on you do not have the foundation to learn new tech. It was difficult at a meeting recently trying to explain how social media works for a new promotion we are doing. They just didn't have the previous knowledge to apply it to what we were talking about.
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