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Why do Bands/Comedians Continue to use Ticketmaster?

Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:38 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:38 pm
Wouldn't it behove them to cut out the middle man and collect their own made up fees directly that add $20 to the ticket price?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57448 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:41 pm to
I wish I had an answer but I don’t. I got charged a $12 printing fee a year ago for electronic tickets. I’m close to going Tyler Durden on the ticket master/ live nation buildings
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:44 pm to
Louie CK did something like this before his scandal. He sold directly from his site. If Ticketmaster included the price in their total beforehand, I'd be far more likely to buy from them. Southwest does this. Once I see a huge increase for literally no reason, it makes me bitter and go to Stubhub for less.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:45 pm to
We picked up Disney on ice tickets through ticketmaster and we paid the price of an extra ticket for their fees etc.

3x 50 dollar tickets ended up being like 205
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:45 pm to
Its because of the facilities, not the bands. For instance, UNO Arena or whereever will have a contract with Ticketmaster. If the band wants to play there, ticketmaster is in charge of the tickets. Pearl Jam tried to fight this in the 90's and had to play in City Park in order to not use ticketmaster.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39169 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:58 pm to
LiveNation, which owns ticketmaster, owns a bunch of venues too. They own the HOB and Fillmore chains plus others around the country.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:00 pm to
Like car dealerships and liquor reps it's an artifact of days gone by. Lot of money tied up in it but it will disappear soon enough
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33858 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:01 pm to
Do they have a choice? I thought the arenas handled the tickets and they all (for the most part) have let TM do it for them.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
parts unknown
Member since Feb 2009
4505 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:41 pm to
As others have said it's more the venue and not the artist. Even Louie CK sold standup tickets thru his site he couldn't play lots of venues. He did a podcast interview talking about it and it sounded like a pain in the arse on his part. I'm sure that's also part of it the logistics of selling Tix and finding venues in every state you want to play.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:55 pm to
What cut out the Jews? That will turn out well. Several bands like Pearl Jam have tried but were buried by them.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 12:17 am to
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Its because of the facilities, not the bands


That’s perfectly fine, but Ticketmaster should advertise the show at a cost of $90... not 59 plus fees.

And they should be called INconvenience fees fwiw.
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 12:19 am
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:02 am to
quote:

That’s perfectly fine, but Ticketmaster should advertise the show at a cost of $90... not 59 plus fees.

And they should be called INconvenience fees fwiw.


And most likely doesnt include "fake tix" insurance which is total bs. Nothing worse than walking up, and being told your tix are fake.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 2:36 am to
Ticketmaster was founded by leffler, Nelson, and Gadwa.

I’m not sure you even know any Jews.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 5:23 am to
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Its because of the facilities, not the bands. For instance, UNO Arena or whereever will have a contract with Ticketmaster


Wrong. My wife works for a major venue. They are just that...a venue. Live Nation produces the events and has a contract with them to use the venue. Live Nation contracts the bands (although I think they as the venue have some say on who is and isn't booked). Live Nation sells the tickets and makes the profit and the venue is just paid based off the contract. Live Nation sets ticket prices. And guess what, Live Nation owns Ticketmaster....has almost 0 to do with the venue in terms of fees.

Unless you are at a venue like below where there is obviously a more direct tie between all players.

quote:

iveNation, which owns ticketmaster, owns a bunch of venues too
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 6:07 am
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 5:53 am to
quote:

3x 50 dollar tickets ended up being like 205


Recently bought 8 “$10” tickets to see The Molly Ringwalds.

$160.

Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 6:57 am to
quote:

ts because of the facilities, not the bands. For instance, UNO Arena or whereever will have a contract with Ticketmaster. If the band wants to play there, ticketmaster is in charge of the tickets. Pearl Jam tried to fight this in the 90's and had to play in City Park in order to not use ticketmaster.


It’s not the venues, it’s the promotion company (LiveNation or whoever).
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 7:21 am to
The worst are the sites with the percentage fees where the fees go up proportionate to the ticket price. It doesn’t cost anymore to run a credit card.

Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 7:47 am to
You know who else is getting bad about that? Airbnb. Rented one this weekend with a $250 cleaning fee.
It should be a law that you have to fully load the display price.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6250 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 8:10 am to
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The worst are the sites with the percentage fees where the fees go up proportionate to the ticket price. It doesn’t cost anymore to run a credit card.


Not defending ticketmaster, but you're incorrect on this aspect.

Transaction fees on a credit card have two parts. A flat charge (which is usually very small), and a percentage of the transaction, which is typically 2-3% charged to the merchant (ticketmaster.) I'm sure with the volume TM does, they probably get a very low rate.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 8:12 am to
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had to play in City Park in order to not use ticketmaster.
more bands should do this. Of those facilities start losing money they will correct it.
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