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Why did Georgia’s film industry crush it so hard but Louisiana’s crumbled?

Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:48 pm
The kids were watching something on Disney Plus and I was watching the credits. At the end, it was just one more of a bizzilion I’ve seen with the “Filmed in Georgia” logo. For awhile we were making all kinds of movies here, and I remember some folks heavily criticizing the way our film credits worked. Then some politician tweaked the program and suddenly, nobody’s making shite here.

What does Georgia have that Louisiana doesn’t? We even had the advantage of oil and gas here. What did they have? How has Atlanta managed to eclipse New Orleans as an international city at such a rate in the last 50 years? It’s not like our demographics are really all that different.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:48 pm to
LA government

That was easy
Posted by tigergirl10
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:52 pm to
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What does Georgia have that Louisiana doesn’t?
Natural beauty?
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:52 pm to
Idiots at the Louisiana Capital decided to de-incentivize films and movies from being made here by capping the tax credits.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:54 pm to
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Idiots at the Louisiana Capital decided to de-incentivize films and movies from being made here by capping the tax credits.

And did they think it would bring Hollywood to their knees? They literally just changed all their filming to Georgia and nobody skipped a beat.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:56 pm to
More Louisiana dumb arse political bullshite. They are the reason this state is a shithole. If it weren’t for NOLA and LSU football this would be one of the worst areas on the planet.
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 11:57 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:56 pm to
Some people in Louisiana thought that not charging taxes somehow meant that we were paying for movies to be made here.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:56 pm to
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LA government

Yep.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:57 pm to
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What does Georgia have that Louisiana doesn’t?


Direct flights to L.A.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:57 pm to
Because Georgia has been literally giving away the store for free

More than 5 billion dollars in the last 15 years

No where near that much money pumped back into the state because all those people just end up leaving

Look up Georgia auditing film tax credits. Its all this year.
Posted by rsbd
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:57 pm to
JBE thread
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:58 pm to
It’s just something else somebody beat us at here. It’s so unbelievably difficult to stay in this shithole. I haven’t ever compiled a list, but if more than half of the people who post on Tiggerdoppings didn’t live in another state, I’d be absolutely shocked.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:59 pm to
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And did they think it would bring Hollywood to their knees? They literally just changed all their filming to Georgia and nobody skipped a beat.


Same dumb shite organizations like Together Louisiana say about the ITEPs. They argue Louisiana is established enough that companies and corporations won't pack up and leave. We have seen just that with the movies and starting to see it because of ITEPs in the industrial sector too.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:59 pm to
One word:

I.B. Freeman bringin' the heat
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:59 pm to
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Some people in Louisiana thought that not charging taxes somehow meant that we were paying for movies to be made here.

‘Some people’ = dumb frick Louisiana politicians
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:02 am to
Louisiana Legislature: “We’re not gettin’ our fair share. Duurrr duh durrr durrrrrr”
Hollywood: “Ok, we’ll go somewhere else. Goodbye forever.”
Louisiana Legislature: “Well we sure showed them!”
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15826 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:03 am to
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Because Georgia has been literally giving away the store for free


The state is not "giving it away". They don't charge the films some of the taxes to encourage them to film here. So let's say in the course of a film, they were supposed to pay $10M in taxes. The state basically says, "hey, if you film here, we will only charge you $5M in taxes". So the state gets $5M in taxes along with an economy boost (as a restaurant worker back when LA first did the tax credits, I can tell you personally about the boost we got from movies). Without the movie coming film in your state, you get $0 and no boost....it's pretty simple.

ETA: Or at least that's how the tax credits had worked in Louisiana
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 12:05 am
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:06 am to
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Natural beauty?


Pine trees, road kill and Kudzu. Lovely.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:09 am to
Hollywood has been using and abusing states for decades with this. Of course the state of Louisiana didn't "lose" taxes because of this (like many believe / thinking the state paid money to make movies here), but the return of money being dropped into the local economy is never as much as Hollywood always tries to sell to states.

it's funny how Hollywood typically looks for red states to film at in order to receive the generous tax breaks. they do everything in their power to avoid their blue state utopias that tax them to hell and back.

the moment the state of Georgia puts their foot down on some of Hollywood's BS, they'll pack up and move on to the next red state for a few years. they've been doing this for years.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:10 am to
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The state is not "giving it away".


They are funding out of state productions with very little actual long term return on said policy. As a whole.

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Just 12 percent of the credits administered went to companies with permanent Georgia locations, while 88 percent of credits went to companies based in other states in 2016 (the most recently available year analyzed)–with nonresident labor accounting for $245 million or 37 percent of total credits claimed.

For every dollar of film tax credit granted, the audit found that Georgia generates approximately 10 cents in revenue.

Because of the state’s deferred use provision, as of March 2019, more than $1.7 billion in credits were outstanding, creating a potential fiscal cliff in the years ahead.

In the year analyzed in depth by the state’s audit, about $80 million of film tax credits went to Georgia companies.




https://gbpi.org/georgia-cant-afford-another-lost-decade-options-to-increase-state-revenues-to-close-budget-shortfalls/
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 12:12 am
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