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Why aren’t churches taxed?

Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:10 pm
Posted by UFFan
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:10 pm
I think that churches should be taxed, regardless of whether they preach politics.
Posted by MikeAV8s
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:16 pm to
I think many non profit and not for profits are tax exempt, no?
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:21 pm to
Joel Osteen’s hair dresser is his tax.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:21 pm to
It makes so much sense to not tax churches, up until the point bad actors organize certain activities to obtain this tax-free status under the guise of being a church, just like so many other non-profit ventures.

I'm not sure there is a really good answer to solving this problem.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

I think many non profit and not for profits are tax exempt, no?


By many if you mean all, yes
Posted by Tdogg78
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:25 pm to
Tax them all
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

I think that churches should be taxed, regardless of whether they preach politics.


Question, do you believe in the concept of separation of Church and state?
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:26 pm to
What exactly do you want taxed?

Church employees pay income tax.

Want the government to take a cut of the offering? Besides sounding weird, if you want to treat it like a business, that seems like taxing capital contributions by members of an LLC.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:26 pm to
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Question, do you believe in the concept of separation of Church and state?


Answer: what a stupid question
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:27 pm to
I was once told bc the members are already taxed and a church is the people. The building holds them. Maybe that’s not why churches aren’t taxed, but it makes sense.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:28 pm to
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I was once told bc the members are already taxed and a church is the people. The building holds them. Maybe that’s not why churches aren’t taxed, but it makes sense.


what’s the difference in that and literally any other non tangible selling business ?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:28 pm to
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What exactly do you want taxed?


This is the short answer. Unless church staff are embezzling, any payouts from the church to staff or anyone else gets taxed.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:29 pm to
The OG lobbyists were the deacons of the first churches in the US.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:29 pm to
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Unless church staff are embezzling, any payouts from the church to staff or anyone else gets taxed.


Just like every other non exempt business
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:29 pm to
Taxed on what? Be specific.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:30 pm to
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Taxed on what? Be specific.


Are dues not taxable to any other nonexempt entities?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:31 pm to
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what’s the difference in that and literally any other non tangible selling business ?


They aren't selling anything. These are literally donations.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Are dues not taxable to any other nonexempt entities?


What dues?
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3542 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:31 pm to
Is a church designated a non-profit? Maybe that’s why. I don’t know the answer to your question. It’s not selling anything and they do community work and give. It was just something I’d heard once re taxes.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:33 pm to
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Is a church designated a non-profit?


Of course

quote:

It’s not selling anything


You don’t have to sell anything to have income as defined by the IRC

quote:

they do community work and give.


So do taxable entities. Makes no difference.

I’m fine with churches being tax exempt, but there’s a lot of dumb shite in this thread
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