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Why aren’t asphalt roads patched correctly?

Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:45 pm
Some goober cuts a hole in the road and then the patch is always a new bump that you have to deal with.

Laziness? Poor skills? Or is it not possible to smoothly patch a road?
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 7:48 pm
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:47 pm to
Lazy and somewhat difficult. To make a perfect patch they would have to reheat the hole to remelt the existing asphalt and the add the patch and smooth and flatten then grind/grade it back smooth.

Much easier to just throw some rocks with tar on them in and smooth it with the back of a shovel.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:51 pm to
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Or is it bot possible to smoothly patch a road?


We can do this...






But this is where we reach our limit...

Posted by Bucktail1
Member since Feb 2015
3186 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:51 pm to
Have you seen the DOT workers???
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:52 pm to
Road repair is managed by the government
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:52 pm to
Now compare the (time adjusted equivalent) salaries of the men who walked on the moon vs the men who shovel asphalt.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:55 pm to
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Now compare the (time adjusted equivalent) salaries of the men who walked on the moon vs the men who shovel asphalt.




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At the time of the Apollo 11 flight in 1969, Neil Armstrong was paid a salary of $27,401 and was the highest paid of the flying astronauts, according to the Boston Herald. That translates to $190,684 in 2019 dollars



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An entry level asphalt layer (1-3 years of experience) earns an average salary of $27,633. On the other end, a senior level asphalt layer (8+ years of experience) earns an average salary of $43,482.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:58 pm to
If only we paid manual laborers like we did rocket scientist fighter pilots, our roads would be good.
Posted by baylorbaiter
Too close to Waco
Member since Apr 2015
1494 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:47 pm to
You're probably a civil engineer who works for a state DOT! Typical by the book dumbass who has no idea how shite works in the real world. I've cut out and repaired hundreds of base failures. There is a process and that ain't it!
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:48 pm to
arse Fault! You ever see the road crew dump the patch out of a bag and pat it down with a shovel. There's your answer.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:51 pm to
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I've cut out and repaired hundreds of base failures. There is a process and that ain't it!


So you're bragging about doing such a shitty job?
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:05 pm to
Sorry to smart to be a civil engineer.

But clearly you know about patching pot holes why not let us know what city/town you work in so we can judge some of your fantastic handy work for itself. Also please share how the real world fixes potholes cause where I live they suck.

Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:15 pm to
I don’t think your really asking the right question.

Why is the pot hole there in the first place?

Cold patch doesn’t last more than a few weeks and if your just shoveling it in you are not doing it right. A shift pothole patch is exactly what it is a shitty pothole patch.
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:20 pm to
I agree with you cold patch is useless. The jackass tried to tell me he was the pothole whisperer and he knew the secrets to fine pot hole filling craftsmanship.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Hayden Fox
Minnesota
Member since Dec 2008
86 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:26 pm to
It’s because a good asphalt patch is not easy to execute without an asphalt paver, hot asphalt at proper temperatures, and a properly prepared sub grade. It’s much easier to pull off a concrete patch with the equipment and labor available to a typical municipal maintenance crew.

Asphalt concrete paving is easier when working in long stretches at full lane widths. And even then it takes good equipment and proper execution. Portland cement concrete is generally better suited to an urban environment where service cuts are routine for that and other reasons.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25552 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:28 pm to
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You're probably a civil engineer who works for a state DOT! Typical by the book dumbass who has no idea how shite works in the real world. I've cut out and repaired hundreds of base failures. There is a process and that ain't it!


While I have never repaired a pothole I have paid for quite a few. The thing I noticed he did not mention was any sort of sub-base rehab and it is my understanding without this the area will continue to be compacted.
Posted by Crackerj
Member since May 2018
178 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:31 pm to
You can’t get paid to do it again if it is done correctly the first time
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:34 pm to
They were talking about patching pot holes overlaying a road is not the same as patching. With the way you are talking you are not from the south. We have different issues down here ranging from expansive soils, poor designs, poor maintenance and point blank negligence to no funding for this type of stuff. It’s a bigger issue than just the mechanics of it...

And to answer the first guys question there really isn’t a way to fix a pot hole without a bump less you mill and overlay the entire road which I think your trying to say so your going from a $25 bag of cold mix getting dumped into a hole to $100k worth of work with $500k worth of equipment to do the work.

It’s more of a funding issue is what I’m trying to say...
Posted by Hayden Fox
Minnesota
Member since Dec 2008
86 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:39 pm to
You mean there are folks down there in the south just throw hot mix in a hole?
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:40 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:42 pm to
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Sorry to smart to be a civil engineer.
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