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Why Are the Coronavirus Death #'s From CDC Drastically Lower Than Elsewhere?

Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:29 am
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:29 am
The CDC has the death # at 24,555: LINK


Wth? That's literally less than half of any other entities tracking the number of deaths. What gives?
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3431 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:41 am to
They only count ACTUAL corona deaths. Not people that die of other shite that happened to have corona when they died.

A guy with corona that, for instance, jumped off a building...didn’t die of corona, he died of hitting the ground at high speed. But a lot of places count it as such.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 4:42 am
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
4025 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:07 am to
Finally a site with the information that is pertinent.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:15 am to
quote:

They only count ACTUAL corona deaths. Not people that die of other shite that happened to have corona when they died.

A guy with corona that, for instance, jumped off a building...didn’t die of corona, he died of hitting the ground at high speed. But a lot of places count it as such.

^^ Encouraging, but not sure event that much is true.

I think CDC omits non-tested covid deaths. But still includes things like cardiac arrest from 90-year-olds who test positive for covid. - regardless of how serious the covid case was. Could have been the snifles. But the positive lab test put that type of cardiac arrest death in the covid category.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14720 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:32 am to
I do not think there is mandatory reporting of COVID illness to the CDC like there are with other diseases.

Say for instance someone shows up at a hospital with tuberculosis, the hospital is required by public health law to report that to CDC for surveillance purposes. It is my understanding that this is not the case with WuFlu.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:39 am to
LINK This is an article saying even the CDC includes probable deaths now, and those are people that weren’t ever tested but showed symptoms of the virus before dying.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 6:41 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:40 am to
quote:

The CDC has the death # at 24,555


Sure glad the whole country was locked down for this.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64393 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:41 am to
Dying in the East from a bullet is a Corona death in NOLA
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:49 am to
If we test the float victims and they turn out positive, can we file it under Corona and have our tandems back?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26695 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:57 am to
quote:

Sure glad the whole country was locked down for this.



Suicides have spiked
Alcoholism has spiked
Domestic abuse has spiked
Child molestation has spiked
The economy has tanked

All thanks to the fear spreading politicans and citizens that followed. We’d be at herd immunity by now and at less risks for a second wave. Fall is going to suck
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 7:14 am
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7245 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:00 am to
51,949 deaths as of right now

LINK
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
4025 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:09 am to
So are we to believe the CDC only on the statistics that you like. When all of this is over we will find out how many more deaths we had than usual. It is interesting that we can have the Covid death numbers everyday, but try to find the number of deaths.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:15 am to
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This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 7:17 am
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4121 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:35 am to
quote:

but showed symptoms of the virus before dying.


Like maybe they had the flu? I have not checked but I bet our flu deaths are way way done for March and April.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53616 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:41 am to
quote:

They only count ACTUAL corona deaths.



quote:

1Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1



Maybe it’s delayed because of processing associated with death codes? Or states are reporting COVID-19 deaths but not notating it on the certificate?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53616 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:45 am to
quote:


Like maybe they had the flu? I have not checked but I bet our flu deaths are way way done for March and April.



Link in OP has between 400-600 flu deaths a week for the time period. Trails off heavily in the most recent week but I think we are out of flu season regardless.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53616 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:05 am to
quote:

The CDC has the death # at 24,555: LINK


Wth? That's literally less than half of any other entities tracking the number of deaths. What gives?


I don’t have the final answer, but I think the “discrepancy” is how data is grouped and classified.

For example, even a casual look at the chart indicates that the CDC isn’t claiming 24555 corona deaths.

It’s at least 35,625 (cases where corona was listed as a sole contributor to death combined with cases where corona plus pneumonia were the cause of death).

Where the rest of the difference might be, I don’t know. I suspect the column on the right might be its own catagory rather than the sum of the other causes like the title indicates (numbers don’t add up). So maybe some portion of that quantity is attributed to COVID-19 in state reporting?
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 8:07 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:17 am to
quote:

It’s at least 35,625 (cases where corona was listed as a sole contributor to death combined with cases where corona plus pneumonia were the cause of death).


Probably a natural lag. States are recording deaths and then sending certificates to the CDC. One week ago was almost the exact number of deaths the CDC is reporting now.

There is a delay in all CDC reporting because they are reverifyjng state certificates. It makes sense this would occur with COVID deaths as well.

These sites are pulling death totals directly from states so they can do it in nearly real time.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16534 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:19 am to
It freaking says why on the CDC website. They are only counting when death certificates received by CDC. That will be a bit of lag time. This is no different than lag time in Louisiana which is about 3 days from parish coroner reporting before it hits the state stats.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:35 am to
Can these numbers be sent to Honor Code so he can reopen the state and get the fricks out of our lives and just go back to over taxing us like normal?
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