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re: Why are some of you rooting for cities to burn?

Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:06 am to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39765 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:06 am to
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So you're argument is that it's ok for someone in Wisconsin to root for towns in south Louisiana to burn then?

I'm not rooting for anything. I'm saying that it's perfectly acceptable for people who don't live in a hurricane zone to feel less sympathy for those who do, based upon the likelihood of wind and flood damage that comes with living in this part of the country. I also think it's perfectly acceptable for people in rural and non-urban areas to feel less sympathy for those in urban areas where riots occur, given their frequency in many cities the last decade.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11641 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:08 am to
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Honestly, though, a minority elected the Nazis into power



Then the Nazis went after minorities.

Makes you think.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:08 am to
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I'm not rooting for anything.
I never asked you if you were rooting for it. My question that still stands is:

Again, So you're argument is that it's ok for someone in Wisconsin to root for towns in south Louisiana to burn then?

Because that is the OP's question and many have replied stating in no uncertain terms that YES they are rooting for that, so the question still stands.

You're changing the answer to "feeling less sympathy" which once again, was not the question in the OP. The question was specifically why would people actively want it to happen.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 11:09 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36398 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:09 am to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35594 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:10 am to
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A lot of the people that live in these cities did not ask for it.


bullshite. Almost none of the municipal elections in these Democratic shite holes are even close. These idiots ask for it every time they go to the ballot box.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35037 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:10 am to
No it's not but....those dudes could build some shite.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:11 am to
I look at things at the meta level. I don't care so much about specific issues often, as I think they'll change to what I believe if the culture was proper. I've tried to direct people to a more accurate view of history for starters. Obviously I go a bit ham here because it's entertaining but IRL I tone it down. Also doing business that will hopefully create healthier people so that people can think more clearly. If things work out here I can do more later. In college I took part in the traditional politic machine but it did not seem the way, at least for me, to actually change anything.

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are you just resigned to it


This is undoubtedly where I imagine a lot of people are and it does feel a bit hopeless. Using hyperbole often illustrates the importance of the situation better. History shows that one person can have enormous change though. Change is primarily shown through power of will. Horrific situations can be changed. Joan of Arc, Charles the Hammer, William Wallace, etc are examples of single people that changed the course of history.

But sometimes you can't change what's going to happen. Sometimes forces are so large that horrible things will happen and that is life. Sometimes fate draws you the short straw, but you have to make the best of it.



There are lots of thoughts to be said on this, but I'm going to leave it here for now.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74988 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:12 am to
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That’s an interesting fact that most people don’t realize



Yep.

Hitler lost the election, but the party itself gained control of the Reichstag, resulting in Hitler becoming chancellor and, after Hindenburg’s death, Hitler became fuhrer.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85110 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:12 am to
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Why?

Just accept the potential risk associated with your vote.



I do every time I vote since I've literally never agreed with a candidate 100%

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not accepting the outcome of your vote, both good and bad, is merely “shirking your responsibility”.


if we had a different voting system, I'd agree with you, but with our voting system, I rarely, if ever, am choosing who I ultimately have a choice in voting for

I've been voting for 20 years and I don't think a single primary candidate of mine has won

ultimately, I just despise this idea that everyone must be forced into these boxes, which is all your doing here








Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36398 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:15 am to
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Hitler lost the election, but the party itself gained control of the Reichstag, resulting in Hitler becoming chancellor and, after Hindenburg’s death, Hitler became fuhrer.
And long story short now we have my second favorite Tarantino flick.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74988 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:15 am to
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ultimately, I just despise this idea that everyone must be forced into these boxes, which is all your doing here
*sigh*

It isn’t forcing anyone into boxes.

It is an inherent aspect of the system that exists.

You do not get to disregard it because you don’t like it.

You do not get to distance yourself from the negative actions of your politicians.

Their actions have you the backing of your vote because you vote for their ENTIRE platform.

You don’t get to pick and choose.

The only way to avoid it is to not vote.

Do you see this as a depressing thing or something?

I don’t understand why you are rejecting this do vehemently.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 11:20 am
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
85110 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:19 am to
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It isn’t forcing anyone into boxes.



of course it is

"if you vote for the D or the R, you own all of those decisions/outcomes even if you disagree with it"

its an easy and effective way to demonize the other side of your voting habits

and of course, you have conveniently skirted your own judgement



Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36398 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:23 am to
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It is an inherent aspect of the system that exists.
This is your opinion. It's not inherent.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39765 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:24 am to
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Again, So you're argument is that it's ok for someone in Wisconsin to root for towns in south Louisiana to burn then?

I don't care if they do. And I don't care if folks on this forum root for cities up North to burn. I have more important things to worry about than being outraged by statements made by people I don't know.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10484 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:25 am to
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Hitler lost the election, but the party itself gained control of the Reichstag, resulting in Hitler becoming chancellor and, after Hindenburg’s death, Hitler became fuhrer.


The burning of the Reichstag also played a part as well
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85110 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:26 am to
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I have more important things to worry about than being outraged by statements made by people I don't know.





80% of the posts on this board (yours included) are exactly this

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36398 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:30 am to
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its an easy and effective way to demonize the other side of your voting habits

and of course, you have conveniently skirted your own judgement
I think a lot of them recognize how poor their arguments are but there's a lot of group think and trying to fit in with the crowd on this board, or hell, life really.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74988 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:31 am to
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"if you vote for the D or the R, you own all of those decisions/outcomes even if you disagree with it"
If you vote for a politician, you vote for their entire platform, or have your ballots itemized their positions and you can check off which ones you support?
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its an easy and effective way to demonize the other side of your voting habits
I have not demonized one person.

I have merely pointed out that everyone has a responsibility to accept all the outcomes of their vote, not just the positive ones they enjoy.
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and of course, you have conveniently skirted your own judgement
How?

I have voted for Jeff Landry and Boustany for Congress and Jindal for governor.

I take full responsibility for the absolute shitshow that was Jindal and any fricked up positions supported by Landry, Boustany.

Do not remember who I voted for for senate, but was probably the Republican.

Didn’t vote in 2016.

Lost all elections I voted in in 2020.


Do you just want to avoid taking responsibility for the negative actions of any politicians you elect, or something?
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85110 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:34 am to
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or have your ballots itemized their positions and you can check off which ones you support?


that would be great, wouldn't it?

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I have not demonized one person.


You have done the "they voted for this" post many times.

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How?


You literally stated earlier that you have been lucky because all of your guys have lost.

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Do you just want to avoid taking responsibility for the negative actions of any politicians you elect, or something?


No. That hasn't been my argument, but that is what you keep trying to shift it to.



This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:36 am to
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I don't care if they do. And I don't care if folks on this forum root for cities up North to burn. I have more important things to worry about than being outraged by statements made by people I don't know.

2nd person to all of a sudden take this stance despite 1000s of posts on other issues that they seem to care more about and never once said they didn't care because they have more important things to worry about


It's weird that this is all of a sudden some super important time in peoples lives that they just have met their quota on shite they care about, and now is the time to draw the line and not take on any more items to care about.
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