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re: Why are so many women defending Lindsay Clancy?
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:29 pm to ell_13
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:29 pm to ell_13
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Never diagnosed with psychosis. Never said she heard voices till her lawyer’s friend (their expert) handed her his phone (a huge ethics violation) to call her husband so she could tell him she heard a voice. Hasn’t heard a voice since. Never told a therapist she was thinking of killing anyone. No evidence of suicidal ideation. Searched how to treat a sociopath. She had her husband run errands so she was alone to do it. She was messaging him normal things.
I can’t understand how anyone thinks she wasn’t mentally competent.
Two months before the murders, ahe told psychiatric nurse practitioner, Rebecca Jollotta, that she was having "persistent intrusive thoughts of suicide", so what you posted isn't accurate.
And a month before the murders, she told her mom and then-husband she had "thoughts of harming the children".
Clancy's mother Paula Musgrove testified this week that during that time Lindsay would say: "'This isn't me, I've never been like this before.' And I would agree, because she wasn't."
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 3:33 pm
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:30 pm to Fun Bunch
Convenient huh? The defense hinges completely on psychosis. Yet the only evidence of actual psychosis is her saying she heard a voice 2 weeks later sitting with a well-known defense psychologist who knew he isn’t allowed to quote her word for word and had her illegally call her husband to tell him she heard a male voice so that he would report it instead of the psychologist there solely to help prove she had psychosis.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:34 pm to KosmoCramer
Thoughts of suicide is not suicidal ideation. There is a very distinct difference. People thing about death often. Everyone. Kids. Adults. They think about dying or killing themselves. Nothing becomes noteworthy or actionable until a person creates a plan. If they have thought about how exactly they would do it then you get treated for it. I’ve had a friend whose daughter had to be admitted because she told a school nurse she thought about hurting herself with a knife. The detail of using a knife set off all sorts of controls. The kid was taken to a facility for evaluation with no contact with parents. It was pretty wild. Lindsey never went that far.
Every initial meeting with her therapist starts with questions about self harm. She consistently said she wasn’t thinking or planning of doing anything.
Every initial meeting with her therapist starts with questions about self harm. She consistently said she wasn’t thinking or planning of doing anything.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:36 pm to ell_13
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Thoughts of suicide is not suicidal ideation. There is a very distinct difference.
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Generally, suicidal ideation involves intrusive, fleeting thoughts of suicide and self-harm and a preoccupation with death.
Albany Clinic
[quote]There is no difference between suicidal thoughts and ideations, but it’s essential to know when they’re dangerous, and when you or someone else may need professional help[/quote
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This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:42 pm to KosmoCramer
Distinguishing passive/general suicidal thoughts from active planning or intent is one of the most important parts of suicide risk assessment because the two carry very different levels of immediate danger and require different clinical responses.
1. Risk level is dramatically different
• Passive or general suicidal thoughts (“I wish I weren’t here,” “It would be easier if I died,” “I don’t want to live like this”) are relatively common in depression, anxiety, postpartum conditions, grief, and many other mental health issues. They signal distress and elevated long-term risk, but most people who have these thoughts never act on them.
• Active planning or intent (thinking about how, when, where, gathering means, rehearsing, writing notes, giving away possessions, etc.) indicates the person has moved from ideation toward preparation. This sharply raises the short-term risk of an actual attempt. The presence of a plan is one of the strongest predictors of imminent suicide risk.
2. It guides the level of intervention
Therapists and clinicians use this distinction to decide how urgently and intensively to respond:
• Passive thoughts ? usually treated in outpatient care with therapy, medication adjustments, safety planning, increased monitoring, and addressing the underlying depression or stressors.
• Active planning/intent ? often triggers higher-level interventions such as:
• Immediate safety planning that includes removing or securing means
• Involving family or support people
• Possible emergency evaluation
• Voluntary or involuntary hospitalization if the risk is acute and the person cannot stay safe otherwise
• Closer follow-up or crisis services
Without this distinction, clinicians would either over-hospitalize people who are not in immediate danger or under-respond to people who are actively preparing to die.
1. Risk level is dramatically different
• Passive or general suicidal thoughts (“I wish I weren’t here,” “It would be easier if I died,” “I don’t want to live like this”) are relatively common in depression, anxiety, postpartum conditions, grief, and many other mental health issues. They signal distress and elevated long-term risk, but most people who have these thoughts never act on them.
• Active planning or intent (thinking about how, when, where, gathering means, rehearsing, writing notes, giving away possessions, etc.) indicates the person has moved from ideation toward preparation. This sharply raises the short-term risk of an actual attempt. The presence of a plan is one of the strongest predictors of imminent suicide risk.
2. It guides the level of intervention
Therapists and clinicians use this distinction to decide how urgently and intensively to respond:
• Passive thoughts ? usually treated in outpatient care with therapy, medication adjustments, safety planning, increased monitoring, and addressing the underlying depression or stressors.
• Active planning/intent ? often triggers higher-level interventions such as:
• Immediate safety planning that includes removing or securing means
• Involving family or support people
• Possible emergency evaluation
• Voluntary or involuntary hospitalization if the risk is acute and the person cannot stay safe otherwise
• Closer follow-up or crisis services
Without this distinction, clinicians would either over-hospitalize people who are not in immediate danger or under-respond to people who are actively preparing to die.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:07 pm to ell_13
My wife thinks the wife did everything and should go to jail forever, but the husband was abusive and ignored her when she said she wasn't well and should be put in jail for negligent homicide as well. Basically, he knew she was a danger to the kids, did nothing to help her, and did nothing to protect the kids.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:11 pm to CatfishJohn
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Basically, he knew she was a danger to the kids, did nothing to help her, and did nothing to protect the kids.
Well, besides start working from home, hired a nanny 3 days a week, brought her parents in to stay with them, paid for all the professional help she could get. Women's mental load really is unbearable, its amazing they make it through a day.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:11 pm to ell_13
This is a fricked up "joke". I know two couples that lost kids to SIDS. Horrible tragedy.
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:13 pm to CatfishJohn
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Basically, he knew she was a danger to the kids, did nothing to help her, and did nothing to protect the kids.
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I'm not saying she's right 
My wife isn't on social media, she picked these nuggets at playing mahjong at girls' night or something, so I'm sure they're bullshite. She talked to me about it once and I think has forgotten about it.
My wife isn't on social media, she picked these nuggets at playing mahjong at girls' night or something, so I'm sure they're bullshite. She talked to me about it once and I think has forgotten about it.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:18 pm to CatfishJohn
I hope y’all don’t have children
“Haha what a laugh the gals at mahjong said this lady shouldn’t be in trouble for murdering her 3 children.”
“Haha what a laugh the gals at mahjong said this lady shouldn’t be in trouble for murdering her 3 children.”
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:19 pm to Sun God
You folks are unhinged too
My wife said she heard details from friends, isn't on social media, and still wants the lady in jail forever and we shouldn't have kids.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:20 pm to CatfishJohn
Which folks am I
Be really specific
Be really specific
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:23 pm to Sun God
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Which folks am I
Be really specific
The ones who can't read, for starters
quote:
“Haha what a laugh the gals at mahjong said this lady shouldn’t be in trouble for murdering her 3 children.”
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:24 pm to CatfishJohn
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My wife said she heard details from friends, isn't on social media, and still wants the lady in jail forever and we shouldn't have kids.
It is fairly horrifying that this is what all it took for her to form the opinion that the husband was abusive and did nothing to help.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:26 pm to CatfishJohn
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My wife thinks the wife did everything and should go to jail forever, but the husband was abusive and ignored her when she said she wasn't well and should be put in jail for negligent homicide as well. Basically, he knew she was a danger to the kids, did nothing to help her, and did nothing to protect the kids.
Haha what a fun time
Hope they had plenty of franzia
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:27 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
It is pretty wild how otherwise intelligent and educated southern women are falling into this rabbit hole
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:27 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:So your wife hears gossip, doesn’t question it, and thinks he’s an accessory to murder with no proof or basic research of her own. Smart girl there.
put in jail for negligent homicide
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:27 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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It is fairly horrifying that this is what all it took for her to form the opinion that the husband was abusive and did nothing to help.
She's not espousing this to others besides saying it to me. She would never without doing her own research. She basically said "this is what I heard happened from friends" and said the woman should be in jail forever and did it.
We can move on
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:28 pm to CatfishJohn
You should do that
Like a couple other posters you’ve completely failed ITT
Like a couple other posters you’ve completely failed ITT
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