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re: Who's your favorite leader in history?

Posted on 6/30/19 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 10:34 pm to
Charles Martel
Posted by GeorgiaTiger678
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 10:36 pm to
General Eisenhower, Napoleon is a really fascinating figure too and a close second.
Posted by thedisciple315
Albany, NY
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 10:51 pm to
Most underrated = Tito

Defeated the Nazis without Soviet help, held that basket case of a country together for 35 years, allowed companies to make and keep profits, let his people travel and work abroad, told Stalin to frick off and lead the non-aligned movement during the cold war. Everyone in that part of the world aside from Serbs still love Tito.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:20 pm to
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
Donald J. Trump
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:29 pm to
I can’t believe that no one else has mentioned George Washington. He was 6’10”
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:26 am to
The Lord Jesus Christ.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:32 am to
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Napoleon is a really fascinating figure too and a close second.


Napoleons only real strategy was throwing thousands of men at a battle. That's not much of a leader imo.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:40 am to
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Napoleons only real strategy was throwing thousands of men at a battle. That's not much of a leader imo.


You’re absolutely right. Conquering all the way to Moscow...not much of a leader.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:48 am to
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favorite leader in history


The MAN, the LEGEND, the GREATEST President of all time







Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:49 am to
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Most underrated = Tito

Defeated the Nazis without Soviet help, held that basket case of a country together for 35 years, allowed companies to make and keep profits, let his people travel and work abroad, told Stalin to frick off and lead the non-aligned movement during the cold war. Everyone in that part of the world aside from Serbs still love Tito.


You say all of that and don't mention the excellent Vodka?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:50 am to
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can’t believe that no one else has mentioned George Washington. He was 6’10”





6' 4"
Posted by eScott
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:54 am to
I didn't say he was a bad conquer, he was good at that. But he was no Alexander the Great.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 7:56 am
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:04 am to
What’s your measuring tool then? How do you measure who’s a good leader and who’s a bad leader especially for people that were born and died hundreds of years before your time?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:06 am to
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:15 am to
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What’s your measuring tool then? How do you measure who’s a good leader and who’s a bad leader


Personally I consider a good leader someone who values the people they're leading, and is willing to make personal sacrifices in their decision making for the greater good. King David would be a good example. He certainly made mistakes, but nobody is perfect. I wouldn't consider a tyrant a leader.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:36 am to
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Had a guy fight and give his life for him, only so he could screw his widow.

Was kinda a punk move


He sent Uriah on a suicide mission after he got the latter's wife pregnant.

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2 One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, 3 and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, “She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.” 4 Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (Now she was purifying herself from her monthly uncleanness.) Then she went back home. 5 The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, “I am pregnant.”


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14 In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah. 15 In it he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.”


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26 When Uriah’s wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him. 27 After the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son. But the thing David had done displeased the Lord.




Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:09 am to
George Washington
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:22 am to
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Washington. The dude was a stud in every imaginable way, knew it, and still was able to retain his humility.


His humility was a bit of a facade. He made sure to “stay above the fray” but he had some absolute vipers as staff - none better at it than Alexander Hamilton - who smeared and destroyed the reputations of his rivals.

Not really a bad combination. George Bush (Jr. an Sr.) followed that model as well. Stay above the fray while you have the likes of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove do all the dirty work.
Posted by PhantomMenace
Member since Oct 2017
1946 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:04 pm to
Hugh Hefner

Cultural revolution. Does not specify military leader.
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