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re: White males should be denied right to vote for 20 years.

Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:14 am to
I don't come around here enough to know who is a known troll. But i like to prop up the giving pledge wherever I can cause its an amazing idea and really fricks with the re-distribution of wealth people since most of the super wealthy have already pledged to redistribute their wealth to various causes of their choice such as world education, disease prevention, worldwide food and water solutions and other things of that sort.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65304 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:15 am to
LP is a liberal. I would have never guessed it.

But, you're shtick is funny and I like your avatar. Still OK in my book.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466262 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:15 am to
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So money gambled is less tax worthy than money earned?

yes. do i need to get into what EV is?

hell it's insane to me that GAMBLING winnings are taxed in the US. even socialist paradises like Europe and Canada don't tax gambling winnings

quote:

Without taxes and government, society crumbles.

up to a certain point. we're WELL past that point

the majority of our taxes go to redistribution programs and the biggest military in the world. we don't need redistribution programs and we can easily scale back our military. that would cut the level of taxes required by about half. HALF

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:15 am to
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quote:
LucasP


Do you understand the concept that equity, by its very nature, is risky?


Are you allowed to deduct capital losses from other ventures? That would be interesting...
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29348 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:16 am to
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If you make more than $1,000,000 per year, your tax rate should be at least 75%


I think I speak for nearly everyone on this board when I simply state, "frick YOU and all of your leftist idiot friends."

Instead of trying to make rich people poor by taxing the ever-living crap out of them, why don't you spend your time trying help poor people become rich.

That's why the United States of America is still the beacon of hope for the rest of the world. Any Joe who wants to work hard can be whatever he wants to be in this country.

Doing it your way is a sure-fire freefall into poverty and misery. Example: Venezuela.

It's people who think like you who need to be re-educated. Taking rich people's money only creates more poor people. There is dignity in work - any kind of work. Try it some time instead of sitting behind your computer all day musing about how unfair life is.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:16 am to
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So money gambled is less tax worthy than money earned?


Again, you don't seem to understand the concept of risk.

"Gambled"? Incentivizing investors to take on calculated risk is the correct term. Our economy doesn't function at all without it.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:16 am to
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would you rather an economy without expansion and much fewer jobs or one where we create incentives for people to invest in companies to allow new companies to be created to expand our economy and create jobs?


Here's the thing about the economy you're describing, it's not sustainable. We're going to have to come up with something pretty soon that is sustainable. We're about to go through probably the biggest economic shift in human history and if we keep at the "constant growth" paradigm, we're all gonna be screwed (even the super wealthy).

It worked great for awhile, but we can't keep acting like wealth is some virtue that needs to be rewarded.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:17 am to
Huffpo is leftist propaganda. Its less for truth than the national inquirer.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21695 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:18 am to
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It is obvious that this violent status quo will not change without a struggle, and the only way to do so will be through the expropriation of these various assets and equitably distribute them to those who need them.




Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69088 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:18 am to
quote:

So money gambled is less tax worthy than money earned?


Of course. You get paid more on riskier gambles in all situations where that analogy applies.

quote:

Without taxes and government, society crumbles.


Without a tax base, we have no taxes, and society crumbles.

Without investments in a tax base, we have no tax base, and society crumbles.

Without incentives (such as lower taxes) for investment, we have no investment in a tax base, we have no tax base, and society crumbles.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:19 am to
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White males are the primary source of resistance to the progressive agenda.


That's why we are so awesome.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:20 am to
as a white male who considers myself a progressive, this frick stain of a "journalist" can suck an AIDS dick with an open herpes sore
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98758 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:21 am to
And I'm for only white males being able to vote
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:22 am to
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Again, you don't seem to understand the concept of risk.

"Gambled"? Incentivizing investors to take on calculated risk is the correct term. Our economy doesn't function at all without it.


I'm not saying that we should eliminate investment. I'm saying that all the arguments y'all are making about how important investment is still don't justify a 15% tax rate. If you raise it to thirty, investors won't stop investing. They still need money, and they have no other means to produce it. Your typical venture capitalist isn't going to quit his job and learn a trade because the tax rates go up, they simply have no other options but to invest.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
23969 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:22 am to
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we need a wealth tax.


Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65304 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:22 am to
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i had a feeling it was a troll, but it brought out Captain, "the intellectual' Brannigan so it was not all for naught



SFP, after reading his posts, I see no way he makes major.
Posted by Puck82
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23948 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:23 am to
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So it is ok for white males to have denied literally everyone but white males the right to vote at some point in this nation, bit the idea of doing the same to them is ludicrous?


So what you're saying is it isn't about equality and fair, but about revenge?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466262 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Here's the thing about the economy you're describing, it's not sustainable. We're going to have to come up with something pretty soon that is sustainable. We're about to go through probably the biggest economic shift in human history and if we keep at the "constant growth" paradigm, we're all gonna be screwed (even the super wealthy).

if we don't figure out ways to increase our world economies in a major way, then billions of poor people will die across the globe

that is not hyperbole

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It worked great for awhile, but we can't keep acting like wealth is some virtue that needs to be rewarded.

when we stop rewarding economic progress with tactile results, then humans will stop seeking economic progress

it's really easy to forget how much work and risk goes into building economic progress. think about all the risk involved and the costs that exist prior to profitability even being an option. research, development, regulatory hurdles, marketing, etc. this costs a lot of money. if there is no potential reward of lots of money (if you take these huge risks and financial costs), then why would ANYONE ever take the chance?

no person has ever said, "oh you mean i get to invest my life savings in a company and if it is successful, i get nothing? sign me up"
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15758 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:24 am to
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misstery


Ok, who let this britch out the kitchen?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466262 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:24 am to
quote:

So what you're saying is it isn't about equality and fair, but about revenge?

yes

the entire concept of redistribution (of property or political power) is centered around revenge
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