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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:49 am to
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Now if you want to say that a lot of leftists celebrated, that's another story.


well….they did. hundreds were fired for it, rightfully so. Who were the mainstream Leftist leaders/politicians calling for a cooling of political violence and rhetoric?

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Y'all bitch about people labeling all Republicans as a cult, Nazis, etc. but then turn right around and do the same thing.


I hope you realize there is a pretty large gap between labeling people for their beliefs and assassinating them for their beliefs. apples and oranges as far as political violence goes.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:51 am to
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well….they did. hundreds were fired for it, rightfully so


That's not "all Democrats" as I was clearly refuting. Don't want to get called out for blanket statements, then don't use them.

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Who were the mainstream Leftist leaders/politicians calling for a cooling of political violence and rhetoric?


And now you're moving goalposts from the original statement. I'm not engaging in this ridiculous hyperbole from y'all just because someone legitimately questioned whether a pardon could be happening.

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I hope you realize there is a pretty large gap between labeling people for their beliefs and assassinating them for their beliefs. apples and oranges as far as political violence goes.


I hope you realize there's a pretty big gap in what people are actually doing and what is being spewed on message boards and social media. Again, don't want to be accused of making blanket statements about a particular group then by all means stop using them.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:54 am to
moving the goalposts?

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Plenty of well-known Democrats offered condolences and spoke out against it.


who specifically spoke out against it?
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:58 am to
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who specifically spoke out against it?

If you want the actual statement from the Democrat Party: LINK

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“Today, in yet another horrific act of targeted political violence, Charlie Kirk was murdered in cold blood on a school campus. Though we’re still awaiting further details, in all likelihood, he was murdered for expressing his beliefs. I am praying for his family, his friends, and his loved ones.

“Let me be clear: even if you disagree with someone’s beliefs, even if you stand against every single thing they stand for, the path of disagreement must never lead to what happened today at Utah Valley University.

“Political violence — in all of its forms — is unacceptable in America. Yet, as I said when my dear friends Melissa and Mark Hortman were murdered earlier this summer, such violence has become commonplace. Every single political leader, Democrat and Republican alike, must loudly condemn this violence. We must work harder to bring this country together, not divide it.

“In this great country, we make our opinions known in many ways. We protest, speak up, petition our government, go on the airwaves, and yes, address students on campus like Charlie Kirk. Most importantly, we make our opinions known at the ballot box. We don’t chill belief and opinion with weapons and violence. That is not America.

“Over the past year, we’ve seen far too much violence. Political leaders targeted at rallies, lawmakers and their families shot in their own homes, children gunned down in a church, and now an execution on a college campus. It is unacceptable.”
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:00 am to
that’s a nice bland statement crafted by AI, but during countless interviews the week of and the weeks after, which Democrat party leader spoke out against it?

How and why would Leftist calm their rhetoric and political violence when their leaders have no interest in doing so?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:03 am to
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moving the goalposts?


Yes. I was refuting the comment that said that all Democrats were celebrating it. They weren't. Even Gavin Newsom said this: "His senseless murder is a reminder of how important it is for all of us, across the political spectrum, to foster genuine discourse on issues that deeply affect us all without resorting to political violence" for example. Even Nancy Pelosi's statement (before Kirk was pronounced as deceased) asked all Americans to pray for his recovery and there was no place for political violence in our nation. My own Democratic Rep (Morgan McGarvey) said "Political violence has no place in this country, and cannot be normalized. I unequivocally condemn this horrific attack, and my prayers are with Charlie Kirk and his loved ones."

I'm not going to give you a comprehensive list, Google works just as well for you as it does me.

You're now moving that goalpost to who made specific comments in a very specific way that fits your idea of "not celebrating" it. Simply offering condolences is "not celebrating it".
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 11:04 am
Posted by Harry Caray
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:04 am to
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that’s a nice bland statement crafted by AI,
There really is no point in engaging with you Jesus Christ
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:06 am to
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You're now moving that goalpost to who made specific comments in a very specific way that fits your idea of "not celebrating" it. Simply offering condolences is "not celebrating it".


Then consider us at an impasse. Leftists, by and large, celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination, spin it however you want.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:08 am to
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Then consider us at an impasse. Leftists, by and large, celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination, spin it however you want.


Leftists are not all Democrats. Jesus Christ. Just like MAGA isn't all Republicans.

And I provided specific quotes from those you consider Leftists as well as my own Democratic Rep. That's not a fricking spin. That's actual verifiable quotes.
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:08 am to
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How and why would Leftist calm their rhetoric and political violence when their leaders have no interest in doing so?
It is all lies anyway.

The Democratic leaders called him a Nazi and fascist for years.

If they believed that, why would they oppose his murder?

Who would oppose murdering Hitler or Mussolini?

Either they were lying about him being a fascist and Nazi or they approve of his murder.

You can’t have both.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by Klark Kent
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:09 am to
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There really is no point in engaging with you Jesus Christ



I agree. You call yourself a “moderate,” yet every chance you get, you take shots at conservatives, Republicans, and anything remotely right-leaning…then cry foul when someone calls you a Leftist. Everyone sees it. Everyone knows it. You’re just too embarrassed to admit it. I would be too.
Posted by Bourre
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:09 am to
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Well, that's certainly a statement. You getting cozy under that big arse blanket you're throwing out there?


Don’t be a disgusting individual who cheers on assignations. And yes, the party you support has spent weeks cheering on an innocent man’s death, mocking his death, and justifying his death. Including people doing it this weekend.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:09 am to
Any admitted liberals post in here yet?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:10 am to
don’t get upset sweetheart. we can agree to disagree.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:10 am to
None. Can you blame them?
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:11 am to
Has TT9 said “right here” or “yup” yet?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:11 am to
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Any admitted liberals post in here yet?
No.

Leftists on here hide under the guise of “moderate”…while never criticizing leftists.

They seem to think it gives credibility.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49950 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:12 am to
It’s incredible

Give me Rex or TheSpleen instead of these weak individuals
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:13 am to
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Imagine supporting a pedophile and not being able to spell
you argue like a bitch. Quit deflecting.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:13 am to
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Give me Rex or TheSpleen instead of these weak individuals
No kidding.

At least they had the balls to admit they were progressives.
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