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Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:11 pm to NeverRains
Louis XVI and Nicholas II
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:16 pm to lionward2014
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Lincoln actually led the country to a civil war.
I'd call it a world war. England and France and Spain (mostly England) instigated that to the point of war. "Free trade" under the British Empire. We think about it as our internal civil war, however Lincoln had a world war on his hands to keep the country united as Europe wanted it divided and England still wanted it back.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:22 pm to NeverRains
To be honest, most world conquerers. We think of Alexander, Genghis Khan, and Julius Caesar as iconic and great men, when really there's not much difference between them and men like Adolf Hitler. Hardcore History did a video on how Hitler will be remembered 2000 years from now, and he thinks they'll have a similar disposition to Hitler as we do to Alexander the Great. For frick's sake, Genghis has a restaurant chain named after him.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:23 pm to NeverRains
Neville Chamberlain. Talk about making the messenger the fall guy, and is it fair to casually mention Mussolini in the same breath with Hitler and Stalin?
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:24 pm to NeverRains
John Quincy Adams:
1) U.S. Senator for Massachusetts
2) U.S. Envoy to the U.K.
3) U.S. Minister to Prussia
4) U.S. Minister to the Netherlands
5) U.S. Secretary of State
6) 6th U.S. President
7) U.S. House of Representatives for Massachusetts
His credentials and accomplishments during one of the most formative eras of American history are impressive.
1) U.S. Senator for Massachusetts
2) U.S. Envoy to the U.K.
3) U.S. Minister to Prussia
4) U.S. Minister to the Netherlands
5) U.S. Secretary of State
6) 6th U.S. President
7) U.S. House of Representatives for Massachusetts
His credentials and accomplishments during one of the most formative eras of American history are impressive.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:26 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
To be honest, most world conquerers.
This right here. Once you get a few hundred years after the event. Where the people directly affected are long dead, their children and their children's children are dead, you start to look at what was done in a new light. Much easier to look at these Conquest objectively and see how it played out in the grand scheme you can start seeing good in the atrocities that were committed.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:27 pm to OMLandshark
You never know. In 1000 years we may have the Adolf Hitler fine dining experience in the old world city of Las Vegas. It'll be right next to the ancient "strip"
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:34 pm to SCLibertarian
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John Quincy Adams:
You forgot fluent in 8 languages.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:53 pm to NeverRains
Magneto or Dr Henry Kissenger...never could understand him.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:54 pm to NeverRains
Jim Jones.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:59 pm to NeverRains
Stalin.
He killed millions and no one holds him to the same standard as Hitler.
Stalin, also, was a monster.
He killed millions and no one holds him to the same standard as Hitler.
Stalin, also, was a monster.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:02 pm to CBandits82
My Grandfather always referred to Stalin As a butcher.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:02 pm to CBandits82
On the note of butchers, Custer was a murdering POS.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:06 pm to NeverRains
All I need to know about Lee is that he was a traitor POS
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:07 pm to NeverRains
Donald Trump. He really IS as fricking stupid as he looks and sounds.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:09 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
John Quincy Adams:
1) U.S. Senator for Massachusetts
2) U.S. Envoy to the U.K.
3) U.S. Minister to Prussia
4) U.S. Minister to the Netherlands
5) U.S. Secretary of State
6) 6th U.S. President
7) U.S. House of Representatives for Massachusetts
His credentials and accomplishments during one of the most formative eras of American history are impressive.
Wait, how is he "most misunderstood"? Maybe most unknown?
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:14 pm to TigerJeff
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Which historical figure is the most misunderstood today?
quote:
Donald Trump
Hm. Most people would classify a historical figure as someone from the past, who has been dead for a while.
But good job trying to inject current politics in a non political thread.
You are insufferable
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:16 pm to NeverRains
Mickey Mouse.
He's a womanizer but made out to be a solid family mouse.
He's a womanizer but made out to be a solid family mouse.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:17 pm to theGarnetWay
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I get your point about the importance of other Founding Fathers, but Washington could've taken Congress by force at the end of the war but voluntarily gave up command to the civilian government.
Meh, Washington never really had a taste for governing/ruling.
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