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re: Which do you fear more, the virus or the economic fallout
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:28 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:28 pm to RollTide1987
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the fact we so easily laid down when state governments suspended constitutional rights,
Should we have formed a militia and started a revolution?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:far more people will die from a health issue that can't afford to take care of due the loss jobs than a bad flu would have killed
But lets crash the economy to give Grandpappy 6 more months anyway...maybe.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:30 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Should we have formed a militia and started a revolution?
That is obviously the last course of action. I think we should have just continued on as normal. Instead of pissing on the Constitution, we should have instead suspended large gatherings such as concerts, promoted good hygiene, and advised older citizens to stay in doors when possible.
Instead of doing that we decided to kill the global economy. We amputated our arm to treat a cut.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:31 pm to fishfighter
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So, you would let your old folks die from this?
Idk, would I rather them die from corona or from the flu next year because they couldnt afford to go the doctor because we're all homeless.
Tough call.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:35 pm to OWLFAN86
After trip to grocery store, I fear depression and suicide numbers going out of control.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:37 pm to LSUDAN1
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There are a lot of rational ideas on how to minimize the impact of the virus, but here's another thought - what if the government can't protect you from it? What if this cake is pretty much already baked, so all we're doing is heaping an economic calamity on top of an unfortunate health crisis?
What if the time the government could have actually done something about this virus that mattered (the last ten years), it was all tied up in knots about the border, guns and how many genders there are?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:52 pm to RollTide1987
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I do actually. Do you think 3,000 deaths merits the suspension of our first amendment rights? If you do then you don't belong in this country.
I meant do you actually believe that your first amendment rights have been suspended? because that's insane to believe that. This is America, believe what you will. But you're insane.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:54 pm to OWLFAN86
EASILY the economic shakedown
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:55 pm to Odysseus32
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I meant do you actually believe that your first amendment rights have been suspended? because that's insane to believe that.
Oh, really. Well...I'm going to try to go to church on Sunday. When the doors are locked and services are still not going on, I will know that my first amendment rights are still suspended.
Also...when I can't host a party or get together in my own home because the state of Virginia has suspended the right to free assembly, I will know my first amendment rights are still suspended.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:57 pm to RollTide1987
I would advise anyone working in the downtowns of larger cities to keep your head on a swivel and look up. We may start having jumpers soon.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:57 pm to RollTide1987
I thought you were home and possibly not coming back.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:58 pm to RollTide1987
Nobody is prohibiting, specifically, churches from gathering. They are preventing any gatherings, which happens to include churches.
You aren't being prosecuted. Your rights aren't under fire. If you wanna take up arms and form a militia find a better excuse than this.
You aren't being prosecuted. Your rights aren't under fire. If you wanna take up arms and form a militia find a better excuse than this.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:02 pm to Odysseus32
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They are preventing any gatherings, which happens to include churches.
Which is a violation of the First Amendment as we are guaranteed the right to free assembly.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:29 pm to RollTide1987
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I will know that my first amendment rights are still suspended.
You don't need to be in church to pray. And, honestly, organized religion has only led to corruption over the years. Government hasn't specifically targeted religious institutions, thus your rights under the Free Exercise Clause are intact according to the most conservative of Supreme Court Justices. We live in a republic. Not an anarchistic utopia.
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Which is a violation of the First Amendment as we are guaranteed the right to free assembly.
No. There is right to assembly independent of political speech.
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can't host a party or get together in my own home because the state of Virginia has suspended the right to free assembly
That people think the right to host a party is covered by the First Amendment. I can't even
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:31 pm to RollTide1987
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Which is a violation of the First Amendment as we are guaranteed the right to free assembly.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America
so.....
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:40 pm to OWLFAN86
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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