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re: When was the last Celebrity death as big as Kobe?

Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:42 pm to
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I can’t think of a celebrity death this big in my lifetime
so you're 12 years old?
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:46 pm to
The answer is Michael Jackson.

Kobe is an international phenom. He can walk on any continent and be recognized.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:48 pm to
Prince
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:49 pm to
I’d say yes. There are people that don’t watch the NBA that knew of him and were still shocked but MJ reached more people. Again especially globally. He was a huge star in countries where the NBA certainly isn’t big.
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:53 pm to
Loss of Prince > Accused Pedophile Jackson.

Bush 41, Derrick Thomas, Walter Payton, Heath Ledger

ETA: Adam Schitt (at some point)
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:53 pm to
You have to ask yourself how recognizable was he? I could take 100 people in my neighborhood. 50 will know both Steve Jobs and Kobe. All 100 will know Kobe. Robin William's death was awful, but he had lived a full life. And youth were not aware of him like Gen X and Boomers were.

Kurt Kobain affected a nation of 14 to 30 year olds. My parents and your parents and grandparents didn't get it. Plus, he wanted to die.

2Pac was huge, but media was a turtle then.

Michael Jackson...say what you want about his legacy, but to a lot of people, it was tainted. Kobe may have cheated on his wife. But he didn't have relations with young boys.

My answer? I do not know. But the reaction from this nation is very strong. Only Jordan and Tiger and Lebron would get a bigger reaction of mourn in the athletic community.
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:57 pm to
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Michael Jackson...say what you want about his legacy, but to a lot of people, it was tainted. Kobe may have cheated on his wife. But he didn't have relations with young boys.

Again OP didn’t ask who was mourned more. Unless that’s what you take “bigger” to mean. I think MJ was quite a bit more popular globally. Unlike some other music stars, he was quite popular for a long time as is his music.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:00 pm to
Prince was the last one that really shocked me. And Mac Miller.
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Again OP didn’t ask who was mourned more. Unless that’s what you take “bigger” to mean. I think MJ was quite a bit more popular globally. Unlike some other music stars, he was quite popular for a long time as is his music.



I see no difference. How "big" a death something was depends on the global reaction. And mourning is the scale that I think should be used. What else would it connote? Who was the richest to die? Who died in the craziest fashion? Whose death received more media coverage?

MJ might be a figure I should steer from because you are correct on that. No one was more globally popular in the entertainment.

So yes bigger to me in this sense is how much it affects the country. It isnt JFK or MLK scale, but it was a huge punch to the gut for most of us. It was damn near unfathomable for a few minutes. Guy was ready to take the next steps post NBA. And he was.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:06 pm to
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We'll just ignore the rape victim he paid off.

You mispelled opportunistic gold digger
Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:07 pm to
Robin Williams
Posted by sanora
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:09 pm to
Prince
Posted by mulletproof
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:16 pm to
The only celebrity death that hurt me and made me have to literally sit down was Stevie Ray Vaughn.
Posted by Fireman17
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:17 pm to
Biggest Sports Superstar Death sense imho Dale Sr
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Michael Jackson? Robin Williams?



Yes they're on par

quote:
Steve Irwin



No way


You have this exactly backwards.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:27 pm to
Elvis is the most comparable imo.

Retired but not forgotten and ubiquitously adored master of his craft who passed unexpectedly
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:28 pm to
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Elvis is the most comparable imo
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:28 pm to
Dale earnhardt sports wise

Mj and princess d was much bigger globally though
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Elvis is the most comparable imo.


You are dreaming. With a few exceptions, nobody really cares about sports figures once they retire.
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 6:36 pm to
Robin Williams hurt, and I still get upset thinking about him. Especially how he checked out.
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