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re: When Health Workers say they are Exhausted and Overwhelmed...

Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:35 pm to
I need you to format that novel into a more digestible format, please.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29545 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:39 pm to
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Nurses specifically are making tons of money for overtime. $50 more an hour type money. Travel nurses are being offered $7000+ per week with 8-12-16 week length contracts. Just insane.


Meanwhile places in New York are asking doctors to volunteer, lol
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29545 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:46 pm to
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There is zero nurse shortage.

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According to The American Nurses Association (ANA), more registered nurse jobs will be available through 2022 than any other profession in the United States. According to an article in the Nursing Times, The US Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that 11 million additional nurses are needed to avoid a further shortage. Employment opportunities for nurses are projected to grow at a faster rate (15%) than all other occupations from 2016 through 2026.
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Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6652 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:47 pm to
Perhaps they are tired of watching more people die than usual?

ICU's at capacity?

PPE shortages?

Risk of life threatening infection?

Just a few thoughts...
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12422 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:50 pm to
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regularly work 12 hour days and literally have hundreds of people’s lives in my hands daily as a regional airline pilot, and make less money than nurses.

You won’t find me bitching about how stressful it is or asking for sympathy or attention.

Just do your job and STFU about it.


Weird how I know you work stressful 12 hour days for low pay if you have not bitched about it even a little.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6652 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:50 pm to
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Those asking what I do for a living?? Not relevant as I don’t complain about it.


So brave
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5033 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:54 pm to
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I regularly work 12 hour days and literally have hundreds of people’s lives in my hands daily as a regional airline pilot, and make less money than nurses.

You won’t find me bitching about how stressful it is or asking for sympathy or attention.

Just do your job and STFU about it.


Is flying a plane really all that hard?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:55 pm to
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Btw a world-wide pandemic that has killed 250,000 people (regardless of where you stand on the virus) is NOT the fricking norm

What kind of retard juice did you drink?


I didn’t say the pandemic was the norm, I said the conditions you describe sound like typical activities of a nurse with or without covid.

As I said earlier, this sounds like nurses have to do more of what they’re trained to do and less free time during the day than they used to have. Sorry?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41872 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:55 pm to
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Those asking what I do for a living?? Not relevant as I don’t complain about it.



Shift manager at Arby's?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Normal nurse patient ratio is one Rn to 2 critical patients. It has been proven that in the ICU this is optimal for best patient outcome. Being understaffed and taking 3-4 patients


I appreciate your candid response in the thread. Can you explain to me what is so time consuming about 3-4 patients who are almost always on vents? Serious question. What am I missing?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29545 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:07 pm to
scheduled meds, neurovascular checks every hour, turning/lifting, suctioning trachs, titrating drips with constantly changing hemodynamic parameters on critically ill patients, blood transfusions, cardiac arrests/running codes, end of life discussions with families, coordinating care with doctors, respiratory therapists, and social workers, etc.
Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:12 pm to
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And you know this how?



Because half of my family are doctors, nurses and healthcare administrators. Spread out from the west coast to east coast.

Health care is not, or has it every been overwhelmed. It was stretched thin temporarily in a couple of places early on, but not even remotely overwhelmed.

Any healthcare worker who hasn’t had a day off since June is either lying or volunteering to rack up on OT (and traveling to do that).
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:12 pm to
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appreciate your candid response in the thread. Can you explain to me what is so time consuming about 3-4 patients who are almost always on vents? Serious question. What am I missing?



Many of this patients likely on multiple drips that require monitoring. Suctioning as needed. Lots of labs that must be done. Lots of other meds to be given. Multiple lines that must be maintained. Add in ICU nurses do total care on their patients. No aides helping to empty catheter bags or change an adult diaper of their vented unconscious patient. Aides don’t normally work in ICUs. They have to ask another nurse to help them...that same nurse that also is taking care of 4 patients instead of 2. Assist other nurses when patients in the unit code.


And during all this they are also updating 4 different families of their loved ones status throughout the day. And at some part chart everything they have done on those 4 patients during their shift.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:13 pm to
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scheduled meds, neurovascular checks every hour, turning/lifting, suctioning trachs, titrating drips with constantly changing hemodynamic parameters on critically ill patients, blood transfusions, cardiac arrests/running codes, end of life discussions with families, coordinating care with doctors, respiratory therapists, and social workers, etc.


Just seems like 12 hours of taking care of ICU patients is 12 hours of taking care of ICU patients. It’s shift work - you put in the same time regardless of how many patients you have. It’s not like you’re salaried and staying late to finish up some overwhelming project.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292898 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:15 pm to
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Women complain a lot and seek sympathy don’t they? Truth sometimes hurts peoples feelings.


Weak people require validation. Bottom line. Look at the Democrat party.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:16 pm to
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It’s shift work - you put in the same time regardless of how many patients you have


You can’t leave until all your charting is done, so if you spent your entire shift running around....that 12 hour shift can turn into 14 hours while you finish up charting.

You also can’t leave until relieved. If they are short staffed and relief will be several hours late....you aren’t going anywhere
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:17 pm to
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Many of this patients likely on multiple drips that require monitoring. Suctioning as needed. Lots of labs that must be done. Lots of other meds to be given. Multiple lines that must be maintained. Add in ICU nurses do total care on their patients. No aides helping to empty catheter bags or change an adult diaper of their vented unconscious patient. Aides don’t normally work in ICUs. They have to ask another nurse to help them...that same nurse that also is taking care of 4 patients instead of 2. Assist other nurses when patients in the unit code.


And during all this they are also updating 4 different families of their loved ones status throughout the day. And at some part chart everything they have done on those 4 patients during their shift.



But they’re doing this for 12 hours regardless of whether it’s 2 or 4 families, no? The only difference, like I said earlier, is the amount of free time they have during the shift? Again, correct me if I’m wrong - I was being an arse earlier but in seriously interested. It seems to me they have to work more when they’re at work, but they don’t have to be at work anymore than they’ve ever had to be.
Posted by Nottelling
Member since Feb 2020
151 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:18 pm to
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Skippy1013


Can’t fix stupid
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:18 pm to
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You can’t leave until all your charting is done, so if you spent your entire shift running around....that 12 hour shift can turn into 14 hours while you finish up charting.

You also can’t leave until relieved. If they are short staffed and relief will be several hours late....you aren’t going anywhere


Appreciate the response. Are you paid for those 2 extra hours?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:21 pm to
It’s not safe to have that many patients all the time.

That’s how massive errors happen.

If you had a loved one critically ill in the ICU...would you want the nurse that has 3 other patients besides your loved one and doesn’t have as much time to pay attention to when your loved one is getting worse and could possibly do something right away and alert the doctor before your loved one codes?


Or would you rather the nurse that has only 2 patients and can actually give your loved one the time and attention they should have as an ICU patient?
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