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Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:03 pm to NPComb
Periodically a collection of Do Gooders get together and provide food baskets in Canton, MS. There are hundreds of cars in line and there's more 2020 Lexus and other cars with huge price tags than 1995 Toyotas.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:04 pm to Jake88
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Deinstitutionization started in the 1960s.
Not disagreeing, it started with the famous case of some rich / celebrity type that made the headlines and forced the pendulum in the other direction.
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In Lake v. Cameron, a 1966 D.C. Court of Appeals case, the concept of “least restrictive setting” was introduced, requiring hospitals to discharge patients to an environment less restrictive than a hospital if at all possible
Not disagreeing, again, there is a certain percentage of the population that needs long term, locked care facilities. If you could make it outside, great, if not there was a place so you were not homeless or abused in the prison system.
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In the 1975 case of O’Connor v. Donaldson, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that a person had to be a danger to him- or herself or to others for confinement to be constitutional
3 basic rules
+ Danger to self
+ Danger to others
+ Incapacity to manage self / affairs
Had a family member high up on Ronnie's staff and about as old school Republican as you can get. In the past decade or two in private conversation he admits Ronnie's policy on long term locked care facilities was wrong and many current homeless / incarcerated were folks who would haver been in long term locked care facilities that existed before Ronnie's administration axed them. Short term saving but long term high cost. Classic "save a nickel now but cost yourself a dollar later" stuff.
FWIW, part of the issue is lack of factilities but the bigger part is judges wait till AFTER to rule on "harm to others". Kid that killed all those in SC lived about a block away from family member. For at least 6 years, his family, the cops, the school, and the community knew he was a threat to others but judge would not act till after all the dead bodies piled up.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:05 pm to Locoguan0
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8% of prisons are private.
Source?
Many are "quasi governmental" which is private with legal protection for inability to sue because they are part government.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:09 pm to greenbean
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I've worked with the homeless, what many folks fail to realize is that a fair number are voluntarily homeless. They have SS disability or VA and live on streets for easier access to drugs, alcohol and secks (and they don't want to confirm to society).
Same here
I have been around this issue since the 1960's
It is less about "conforming" and more about self medicating and admitting a percentage of the US population can not live on their own without constant supervision.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:11 pm to NPComb
Put them to work on the southern wall. Then the northern wall
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:14 pm to NPComb
Jesus Christ would be so proud of the responses in this thread.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:23 pm to NPComb
Starve them out. Stop feeding them, quit sheltering them and don’t let them just camp wherever they want.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:26 pm to theronswanson
Well I guess the Apostle Paul overruled Jesus in 2 Thessalonians 3:10,
“The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
Not.
The heart of the matter is the matter of the heart.
Some can’t. Some won’t. Big difference.
“The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
Not.
The heart of the matter is the matter of the heart.
Some can’t. Some won’t. Big difference.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:29 pm to NPComb
Send them to Mexico
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:32 pm to nola tiger lsu
Yes and 30% of the people in this country think Trump and everybody that supports him should be locked up in a mental institution for life too. Slippery slope ...
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:32 pm to ronricks
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you got rid of homeless and Illegal Immigrants crime would plunge in this country.
You’re missing the largest criminal element
That segment can only be eradicated by harsh indictments & severe punishments
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:37 pm to NPComb
Bring back long term mental health facilities for those who are too crazy to live on their own. Make drug treatment available at low or no cost. Have homeless shelters available for those who are willing to follow rules and just need help. Give them a choice between the above 3 and jail.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:39 pm to PUB
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Yes and 30% of the people in this country think Trump and everybody that supports him should be locked up in a mental institution for life too. Slippery slope ...
Asylums had plenty of sane people whose families conspired against them.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:41 pm to NPComb
Eat them
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:42 pm to NPComb
Actual mental health and drug facilities that are accessible by the average person would cure most homelessness
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:43 pm to Cheese Grits
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8% of prisons are private. Source?
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In fact, just 7% of all incarcerated people are held in private prisons; the vast majority are in publicly-owned prisons and jails
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:44 pm to NPComb
Shoot them
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:44 pm to Rip Torn
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Actual mental health and drug facilities that are accessible by the average person would cure most homelessness
Agree. Even if someone in the early, more manageable stages of drug addiction or mental illness can get past the stigma and try to seek help, it’s not affordable for most people.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:48 pm to pbro62
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Shoot them
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