re: What’s your opinion of paid maternity/paternity leave?

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lol@ you. Progs absolutely want mandated leave.

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I know.

What does that have to do with what I posted?

I have to use my PTO if I want to see the birth of my child, my employer only offers time off for females, not males

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Govt didnt force maternity leave when we did have strong families.

I wonder how that happened? Miracle, i guess.

Plan your leave right, use your personal leave. Sounds reasonable, but since govt isnt forcing something, Progs will not like it.

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No one is talking about a government policy for paternity/maternity leave. OP just asked folks opinion on it.

Secondly, the "plan your leave right" is a pretty naive statement. It's wholly dependent on where you work and their leave policies. Most people in child-bearing years have likely not been in an industry long enough to accumulate 6-8 weeks worth of leave. And most employers have policies on how much leave you can take consecutively. Employers who have "unlimited" PTO typically have PTO caps that are less than 6-8 weeks.

Give it to them....Both parents. And forgive their student loans. If they didn't have any, just pay them some cash. Oh and pay for the medical bills in full. Once they are willing to come back to work, pay for any child care needed, private preferred (want to make sure they are conditioned for homeschooling) Finally (for now anyway) set the kid up for paid private schooling thru HS.

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fwiw I was talking about mandated leave

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Sure, but you're not asking for it to be government mandated. I haven't seen anyone here say it should be at this point.

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Give it to them....Both parents. And forgive their student loans. If they didn't have any, just pay them some cash. Oh and pay for the medical bills in full. Once they are willing to come back to work, pay for any child care needed, private preferred (want to make sure they are conditioned for homeschooling) Finally (for now anyway) set the kid up for paid private schooling thru HS.

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Holy hyperbole, Batman.

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Corporations should all offer it,

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Its small business that cant compete.

This is how you add more levels of corporatization to your life. Destroy them with barriers to entry. They cant compete with that shite.


Maternity leave should be in your insurance, or as a stand alone option.

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Its small business that cant compete.

This is how you add more levels of corporatization to your life. Destroy them with barriers to entry. They cant compete with that shite.

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Small businesses aren't subject to things like FMLA, they wouldn't be subject to parental leave either

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Progs absolutely want mandated leave.

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Notorious progressive Donald Trump:

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On December 20, 2019, President Trump signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2020 (FY20), which included the Federal Employee Paid Leave Act (FEPLA). FEPLA amended the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) (5 U.S.C. § 6382(d)) to allow the use of up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave granted in connection with the birth of an employee’s child or the placement of a child with an employee for adoption or foster care. 

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what i love about paternity leave is when the dudes leave and then someone else has to do their work for eight weeks


in before - EXPERTS AND MANY STUDIES SAY THIS ISNT HAPPENING

yes, it's fricking happening. guys just up and leaving work for months at a time is painful for everyone else because they have to pull up the slack and it's annoying as frick.