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re: What's your favorite military plane ?

Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:32 pm to
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The Eagle is undefeated in air to air combat and after nearly 50 years in service, it's still considered an extremely dominate air superiority fighter on the global scale. It's basically zero threat to an F22. That is just ridiculous and again, the F22 is old now. We still have no idea what it's capabilities really are.

Think about the advances in tech in the last 50 years then look at the parabolic increase specifically in the last 20 and I would imagine we have tech either available or in design that has more in common with a "UFO" than a P51.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted by BruslyTiger
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:35 pm to
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The AC-130 Spectre gunship is my favorite.


Angel of Death from thousands of feet.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6453 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:41 pm to


Ib4 Nazis, but they knew flying.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:46 pm to
The two of you would have been fun.
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
464 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:47 pm to
Im a plane nerd so i cant pick just one.
P-51D
F-14

But if you ever have a chance to go to an airshow and watch the F-22 demonstration you do not pass it up. That plane defies the laws of physics and you will leave there in absolute awe.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22051 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:54 pm to
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When I saw P51s over Berlin.. was his reply.


Sounds like what Goring said..


What Goering said was that if any enemy planes reached the Ruhr you could call him Meyer.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112703 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Sukhoi SU-47 Berkut just for the way it looks.


that's a rip off of the X29 that at one time was hanging from the ceiling at the Air & Space Museum in DC
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 2:11 pm to
Not really my favorite but it took stones to fly this machine in Vietnam.

Posted by Yammie250F
Member since Jul 2010
1014 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 2:22 pm to
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The Tomcat was a Fighter-Attack aircraft, we just never dropped bombs until the early ‘90s but we had the capability - we just opted to leave that to the A-6 and A-7’s. For the Gulf War, the Hornet didn’t have the Nighthawk pod, and they could only drop VFR,..not all weather. The Tomcat got the GPS stabilized LANTIRN Pod a little after the Hornet got their Nighthawk Pod, so the Hornet was all weather then, but the Nighthawk was not GPS stabilized like the Tomcat’s LANTIRN Pod. And we had a RIO and a much bigger scope in the backseat, and because we could carry more bombs, needed less gas and had a greater “bring aboard” capability, We were the premier bomber of the two.



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The Hornet ran a digital radar bus system and we ran the ancient analog. All the newer weapons like the AIM-120 AMRAAM were digital, so the Tomcat was unable to shoot them. Maintenance on the F-14, getting to and swapping parts was more difficult due to older technology locking down the access panels, ie, Kalfaxes, but the F-14 was an older jet, so I’d say the digital vs Analog was a much bigger problem. Because of that, the money began going into the Hornet because it was the “new” plane with updated technology. The Hornet eventually morphed into the carrier point defense fighter as Tomcats became more air-to-ground guru’s, even though it was actually the better fighter of the two due to it’s fuel capacity and maneuverability with tanks on. Hornets are only better if they are not carrying external fuel tanks, which is extremely limiting for any carrier based aircraft. Hornets are limited by the weight of what they can bring back aboard a carrier when they land, Meaning for example, if they are returning to the ship still carrying a 2000lb. bomb they haven’t needed to drop, they will be “bingo on the ball” (low on fuel) due their weight, necessitating having to waste that bomb by jettisoning it in the water before landing. Because of the Tomcat’s internal fuel capacity in the larger wings and tank, etc., they carry more fuel so don’t need to waste ordinance when landing on the ship. Also, because it is a smaller plane, in order to achieve the time necessary to perform their missions, the Hornet has to carry a larger number of tanks. This limits dogfighting capability. If both the Tomcat and Hornet carried only two external tanks, they could be a close match, but with the Hornet needing to carry 3, it slowed them down and ruined their turn rate capability. Fighting them became like whipping a disabled kid in a wheelchair. Despite that, the Tomcat was eventually phased out due to the practical reasons of age.




Very interesting explanation between the 2 aircraft I'm assuming most people don't know about. I sure didn't know any of that but it makes sense.

EZVictor
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Post more in aviation threads!
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:03 pm to
A10 without a doubt.

Next would be AC130 then BUFF.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3752 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:05 pm to


... F18

buzzing the tower

SIR

Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22051 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:06 pm to
My favorite is the F6F Hellcat:



In my yute I had the honor of meeting George R. Carr, a double ace in WWII. His exploits in the Hellcat off the carrier USS Essex are chronicled by a friend:

This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6113 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:09 pm to
C17 by a mile.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:23 pm to


quote:

The AC-130 Spectre gunship is my favorite.


Since when did a C130 get turbine engines? This GIF is not an AC130 it is a Russian Aircraft an IL76.
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
1234 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:27 pm to
Ace in a Day from Bogalusa, LA.

Hell of a share. Thanks for that.
Posted by Barbarosa
Bawcomville
Member since May 2023
83 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:29 pm to
It's a tie between the F-14 Tomcat and the SR-71 Blackbird
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4985 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:30 pm to
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XB-70 Valkyrie. Only one left, in the USAF museum.
You mean half the fleet still around. It's all how you look at it.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3467 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:43 pm to
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It is freshly painted or should be soon and allegedly it is one of the planes from the original Top Gun. Last time I saw it was painted in the Jolly Roger regalia.

There’s one painted with Maverick’s markings from the original Top Gun on the flight deck of the Yorktown in Charleston.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22051 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Ace in a Day from Bogalusa, LA.


The Bogalusa airport bears his name.
Posted by s0tiger
Member since May 2008
1014 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:42 pm to
TBF Avenger from WWII. My grandfather was a gunner on one.

Modern would be an A-10 or C-130 as an Army guy.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 5:44 pm
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