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re: Whats up with all the race stuff?

Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83405 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:31 pm to
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I’d imagine that a culture where 3% of the population commits 50% of the violent crime is a problem. Do we have a lot of problems? Sure. But chalking up such an alarming statistic to “people suck” makes your points here seem naive at best


I'd honestly settle for admissions like: yeah, actually it is pretty crazy that these disproportionate numbers which are also reflected/experienced in everyday life aren't commonly studied/discussed/etc. in any honest fashion by our institutions OTHER than to try and discredit those realities and characterize the people who notice them as bad people.

That the people who think the above is problematic will also accuse the people who suggest the above as ignorant is just beyond insane
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27683 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:32 pm to
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Wait, you’re chastising the board for using dindu but then call someone a dumb Mexican. Make it make sense.


Owl is a well-known poster and has a sense of humor and it was very much in jest. Now who’s being too sensitive?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83405 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:33 pm to
"You're coming from a place of ignorance"

- Cat lady from Vermont who hasn't interacted with a minority in a decade to Southern white guy who works, lives and interacts with black people all day every day
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42065 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Owl is a well-known poster and has a sense of humor and it was very much in jest. Now who’s being too sensitive?


Hot damn. You’ve gotta be trolling
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188670 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Owl is a well-known poster and has a sense of humor and it was very much in jest. Now who’s being too sensitive?
I'm an institution
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27683 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:34 pm to
You’re something alright.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3714 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:36 pm to
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Business ethics.
Well, I've never owned a business. I've only been a W-2 worker. Once I was a 1099 when I was consulting, but that was a short engagement when I was an instructor.

When I got my MBA we studied business ethics. A few weeks ago I completed an ethics seminar for continuing education credits to maintain my professional license.

What about business ethics?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10422 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:38 pm to
It's getting old. Every where you turn someone is putting out race baits. It's not even good rat poison any longer
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27683 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:38 pm to
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Well, I've never owned a business. I've only been a W-2 worker. Once I was a 1099 when I was consulting, but that was a short engagement when I was an instructor.

When I got my MBA we studied business ethics. A few weeks ago I completed an ethics seminar for continuing education credits to maintain my professional license. What about business ethics?

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
5901 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

McComb


My god what a hole….I commend you for survival.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188670 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:40 pm to
so this dum rednek doest get saracasm...and has no respect
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
4210 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:40 pm to
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The real issue is that the black community at every turn avoids responsibility and accountability for the violent members of said community


This could not have been said better
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3714 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:42 pm to
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Well, at least you're smart enough to realize when you're out-gunned.
Posted by Mike the Tiger 1999
Weston, Florida
Member since Jul 2009
2152 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:44 pm to
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Whats up with all the race stuff? Get offline and see the real world isn't all doom and gloom. A race war isn't gonna happen
divide et impera
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27683 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:45 pm to
Guess I could have picked “classic movie scenes” and you would have failed at that one too.

Do yourself a favor and watch Billy Madison. Pay close attention to Jim Downey. He’s a comedic genius.
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
4210 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:49 pm to
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Wow. You went to New York? Good for you! How accomplished! Fun tip next time you go, don’t refer to it as NYC. Or to someone who lives there as a “local New Yorker”.


Take a lap man. You’re really starting to be a baby in this thread
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3714 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:51 pm to
I can quote it without looking it up, dip shite.

I'm just glad everyone here can see you trying to deflate and crawfish out of what bullshite you started.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8028 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:51 pm to
The problem according to this black male is/was affirmative action, the left, and not wanting to talk about behavior issues in poorer black communities like the OT “moderates”. Also before LBJ’s war on poverty and affirmative action black families were more likely to consist of 2 parents than whites families. Dem policies have hurt more blacks than they have helped.

Many of posters of OT are part of the solution unlike the fake moderates of the OT like Anita, TDS9, whoever started this thread, and Corin who want to ignore the problem and just push lower standards and expectations for black behaviors. OT “moderates” calling others racist and acting like they are the saviors of blacks while systemically supporting the destruction of the black middle class.
https://nypost.com/2025/05/06/opinion/black-americans-on-the-rise-before-affirmative-action-jason-riley-writes-in-new-book/

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“I find it annoying that I have to make what I consider commonsensical points that others deem controversial, to say, ‘No, police are not a bigger problem than the criminals.’ This is something that’ll get your head handed to you today to say,” he declares.

“ ‘Black kids should spend more time studying and less time playing video games, and that will go a long way toward closing the achievement gap in schools’ is a very controversial thing to say.”

“There was so much doomsaying up to the decision on how the black middle class would be impacted if the court banned racial preferences. And the argument seemed to be that racial preferences had created the black middle class, and so blacks would be devastated if these policies go away. And I wanted to say that is not what the historical record shows,” he says.

“This idea that black advancement in this country is contingent on special treatment, set-asides, quotas and what have you is just something not supported by the facts,” he adds.

“What really prompted the book is to respond to this sky-is-falling-argument I was hearing about the court case and what could happen if the justices rule the way they ultimately did.”

‘Before DEI programs’

Riley rattles off statistics:

“Between 1940 and 1960, the black poverty rate in this country fell from 87% to 47%. Nineteen-sixty is not only before any affirmative-action starting. It’s during Jim Crow. It’s before any major civil-rights acts of the ’60s had passed,” he says, with some incredulity.

“It’s before DEI programs.”

… “Whether it’s black educational attainment, poverty reduction, blacks entering middle-class professions, black crime rate and involvement with the criminal-justice system, all of these trends were moving in a positive direction at a faster rate in the decades prior to the implementation of affirmative-action policy,” he notes.

“When the policy objective has been colorblindness or equal treatment, blacks have made much greater strides than when the policy objective has been reverse discrimination.”

Another theme of the book, in Riley’s succinct words: “Culture does matter.”

One of the problems with a lot of people on the left who write about these issues, and particularly among civil-rights advocates in that crowd, is not wanting to talk about cultural differences, behavioral differences and so forth and also not wanting to talk about a very real problem in poor black communities, which is that the behaviors and attitudes that are conducive to upward mobility are demeaned and derided as acting white.”

“So the black kid who is studious, who does spend a lot of time studying, who raises his hand in class gets mocked by fellow blacks who accuse him of acting white,” he says.

There was a time in black America where that was unheard of, and I think it’s one of the reasons that you saw those black gains in the first two-thirds of the 20th century — because there was an emphasis from the black leadership on down, Martin Luther King on down, that were obsessed with how black people carried themselves, how they comported themselves, schooling speech and so forth.”

“Staying out of trouble with the law, not giving white racists any excuses, that was part of the goal, but also that, just for its own sake, these behaviors were conducive to upward mobility. And that has been lost in the post-’60s era, and now you have a lot of black writers and thinkers and politicians and media folks who don’t believe that black behavior should be any part of the discussion.”

“This celebration of antisocial behavior that you get from the hip-hop world and the rap world and so forth, don’t talk to us about that until you get rid of white racism in this country, that’s the problem, not this behavior.”


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36348 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:52 pm to
"Whats up with all the race stuff?"
-Martin Luther King

would make for a decent 'fake quote' meme
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27683 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:55 pm to
If that’s how you define mocking you while you attempt to build your credibility by telling me where you recently traveled and doing a copy/paste of your LinkedIn profile, then I’m absolutely deflating and crawfishing.

Also, as long as I’m being an annoying prick:

quote:

Pick a topic. Education. Money. Travel. Chances are that I've done more and got more than you.

quote:

When I got my MBA


If the best you’ve got is an MBA, best to not pick education as a topic.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 11:00 pm
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