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re: What Would You Actually Do? (Carjacking)

Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:22 pm to
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You'd be the one going to jail and the carjacker would be canonized. Not many states allow deadly force for protecting property anymore.


You don’t shoot at the car driving away. You blown their brains out while getting into your seat and then lean on top of them before standing up and calling the police.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Get out and run away

Get out and run where? Into the ghetto?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89745 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

no it isn't if you give them the keys there is a chance you still get killed. if you shoot them first and worry about the consequences later you have no chance of being killed.


Is this supposed to be some kind of logic?

So giving the keys away means I can still get shot, but if I pull out a gun I’m going to shoot and kill them and there is zero chance anyone else, including myself, is harmed in the process?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Into the ghetto?
ohhh the big scary ghetto….. you’ve got a better chance of catching COVID and dying than getting killed because you happened to run in the ghetto once.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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53457 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

run in the ghetto once

Yeah, no shite, I used to live in the ghetto

Just thought it was so funny that people would give up their car keys so quick to the scary man with a gun and then run into the place they so avidly try to avoid

ETA: correction - I still live in the ghetto
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:38 pm to
What hood you wuz staying at in dat seventh guh?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:43 pm to
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What hood you wuz staying at in dat seventh guh?

Sheeeeit - I didn’t live in da seventh, no treme trash up in here

Thoid wawd (3rd) 119 representing
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:51 pm to
Tulane/Gravier Mid City
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:56 pm to
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Tulane/Gravier Mid City

Is that where you’re from? That’s my grandma’s neighborhood

I lived closer to Carrollton
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68428 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:58 pm to
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not many states allow deadly force for protecting property anymore.


Louisiana law treats your vehicle like your home when you’re inside of it. The citizen has no duty to retreat from their vehicle.

If you walk up and see someone trying to break into your car, you cannot shoot them to defend your property. However, if you’re in the car and they’re trying to take it from you, you are within your rights to use deadly force just as would be within your home.
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14412 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Keep the high ground in your car.


What?
Posted by TheWoodlandsTigah
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:23 pm to
Delete
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 4:57 pm
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:41 pm to
Cringe
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:41 pm to

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Call me whatever you want, but I’m giving them the keys in any situation above. If they’ve already drawn on me, they’re getting my car and my family and I are walking away with our lives.

I agree with that call. From the OP, I'm obviously assuming I'm boxed in in a middle lane and can't simply hit the gas, bump a car or 2 to make space to get away. I'm also assuming there's multiple dudes with guns pulled so simply pulling out my gun and shooting everyone isn't realistic, especially in the 2nd scenario of having wife/kids with you. That would be an awful play most likely.

The only thing I take exception to you that you said is very simply assumed if you give them your keys, you and your family live, no problem. I think it's the best play, but there's still a huge risk that they'll just shoot you anyway once you get out of the car, but it's still probably the best odds you have.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:17 pm to
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here’s but one way to deal with an animal…Put them down. I never rely upon the integrity of a thug, to protect me or my family. They don’t honor deals…Somebodies going to get shot, maybe them or maybe me…You just can’t get caught with your pants down.
If there are 2 or 3 dudes with guns drawn, and you only have 1, you're basically guaranteeing death for you, your wife, and your kids.

There are no good options but in that scenario, the best chance you have to save your kids is to get out of the car and give them the keys and hope for the best. In your scenario, it's MUCH more likely your kids are getting shot.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:32 pm to
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1. Get out and hand them my fob.
2. Let them get about a block away.
3. Call the cops.
4. Pull up my Uconnect app to show the cops the exact location of my truck.
5. ???
6. Profit
Basically a version of this, with the addition of hoping they don't shoot me, and also I'll likely be able to grab the USB stick in my car as well so I also have a video of the incident from 6 different camera angles on my car.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Why do you people think giving your keys to these animals is going to prevent further violence. They do not value life, period.

It definitely doesn't guarantee anything, but it's the most likely way to not get shot.
quote:

You’re still going to get shot.

People are carjacked every day and don't get shot, so no this is not correct as an absolute.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:42 pm to
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I don’t have to worry about carjackings where I am, but I’m curious. Are there not devices that have auto shutoff or remote shutoff options?

My car has a mode where I can control the max speed from the car's app, so they're definitely not getting very far.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14510 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:53 pm to
All 3 go the same way:

It’s all yours. Let’s keep this low key so you guys can get away. Tell them to keep guns down and voices low so we avoid attention.

If family is with me, family comes out my door. I pull them out one by one, keeping voice calm and low, updating the thugs by telling them we’re almost out. As each one exits I tell them to move toward the rear of the car, head to the sidewalk and keep going. I grab the last one, tell the thugs it’s all theirs and start running with the last one.

We’re running because the engine will kill once the key fob in my pocket gets a certain distance away. I trigger the alarm and we enter the closest building. My dash cam will have video.

Call 911 and report location, height, clothing description , skin color, direction they fled, and description of any vehicle they arrived in or exited in.

If any of them follow me into the nearby building, I put the phone down, and greet them with gunfire. Double tap, center mass. As each one drops, I assess location of others, describing it out loud to phone speaker. If time and safe distancing permits, I slide gun away from dropped thugs, telling them the next round goes straight into their dick if they do anything other than lay still on the floor with their hands out.

As each one bleeds out, I tell them what pieces of shite they are, how much I hope they will be paralyzed for life and suffer greatly from severe infection. I continue with the insults that focuses on everything except skin color. I will loudly ask if anyone is a doctor or nurse (for the benefit of the recording and witness testimony), but I will also tell the thugs how much blood is coming out their new holes, how big the holes are, and describe the likely damage to their internal organs. This trash talking continues until cops or paramedics arrive.

After the scene is cleared, I’d probably regret not pissing on each of their dying bodies. But maybe I need to rethink that and insert that move somewhere into the above scenario.
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