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What would the impact be if Exxon shut down refineries in the US?

Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16868 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:07 am
The company is trying to reduce its workforce worldwide, but hasn't made any specific announcements about operations in Louisiana. Houston seems to be taking the bulk of the hit.

Currently, Exxon is Louisiana's largest manufacturing employer by a wide margin. The Baton Rouge refinery employs 1900 people by itself, not including the many contractors and ancillary workers that help keep the 112 year old refinery in operation. Up to 1 of every 8 jobs in Baton Rouge is related to the refinery.

Would Louisiana recover from a major economic hit like that?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:08 am to
Louisiana would "recover". Not sure about BR.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:09 am to
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Would Louisiana recover from a major economic hit like that?


Just give them a government job
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164267 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:09 am to
We’d be the ones going over the wall
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:11 am to
With all those $15/hr minimum wage jobs to fall back on? Everything would be fine.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25366 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:12 am to
If Exxon divested from Deer Park and Baton Rouge, they'd likely try to sell the facilities. An outright closure like what happened to Shell in Convent would be devastating to both areas. It would really screw up Joliet, IL too.

It's very important that Baton Rouge support Exxon's investment into the refinery. The day may come where a decision will have to be made to shut it Baton Rouge vs another refinery.
Posted by Lord_Ford
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
4003 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:14 am to
Exxon in BR just applied for tax exemptions to update the plant here over the next 10 years. i think we are ok for the foreseeable future at least
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132404 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:15 am to
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We’d be the ones going over the wall

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25366 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:29 am to
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Exxon in BR just applied for tax exemptions to update the plant here over the next 10 years. i think we are ok for the foreseeable future at least



Hopefully they get it.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25994 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:34 am to
Exxon Mobil Corp pledged to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions from its operations over the next five years and eliminate routine flaring of methane by 2030, responding to pressure from activists and investors to lower its carbon footprint.

The Texas-based oil giant said Monday that it would cut the “intensity” of emissions from its oil-and-gas production by 15% to 20% by 2025.

The company also said it would end routine flaring, or burning, of methane from its oil-and-gas operations in the next 10 years.

Exxon said Monday that it would reduce its methane emissions intensity by 40% to 50% and cut its flaring intensity by 35% to 45% by 2025. The company said those targets are consistent with the Paris climate accord from which President Trump withdrew the U.S. that Exxon says it supports.

Business Insider: S&P Warns Exxon it may cut its credit ratings due to their push for zero-carbon. Announced today 1 27 2021

S&P Global Ratings has put some of the biggest oil companies in the world on notice that it could soon downgrade their credit ratings thanks to heightened concerns about climate change and a global push towards greener energy.

The agency - one of the three most influential ratings firms in the world - said it could downgrade the ratings of Chevron, Exxon, Shell and Total among others.

It downgraded the outlook, although not the rating, for both BP and Canadian firm Suncor Energy to "negative". This means S&P could cut their ratings in the future, although a change is not necessarily imminent.

Credit ratings are very important to big firms, as they heavily influence the costs they face when they borrow in financial markets.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27262 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:35 am to
Isn’t “flaring” for safety?
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15821 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:35 am to
Lol Exxon isn’t going to shutdown it’s refineries in the US
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31738 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:38 am to
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Lol Exxon isn’t going to shutdown it’s refineries in the US


I could see them shuttering some and selling off others. Not full scale shut downs, but there will def be some pain
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203072 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:38 am to
No they are not. But the glut of oil we have stored up is a major factor in producing more oil..... it’s amazing that even with this pandemic we still use the amount of oil this country uses on a daily basis and we still have a huge surplus.......
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57255 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:39 am to
Baton Rouge and the surrounding area would collapse like a house of cards in a gale.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Lol Exxon isn’t going to shutdown it’s refineries in the US


I could see them shedding them in the future.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11093 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:46 am to
The writing on the wall in regard to petroleum has been there for years. Thats why the Middle Eastern countries have been trying to diversify as quickly as possible. Despite the looming switch to clean energy, Texas seems to have successfully diversified its economy. I’m not so sure about Louisiana.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203072 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:49 am to
Louisiana does not have the capability to fix its economy without Exxon and the companies along the river south of BR......
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6260 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:50 am to
The Advocate should sponsor an economic simulation of Exxon closing the refinery in BR.

Together BR could simulate a replacement industry of beads, hemp products, and neighborhood gardens.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:52 am to
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Texas seems to have successfully diversified its economy.
Texas has always been home to many major companies' headquarters. Because Texas usually has a competent governor who loves his/her state.

Meanwhile, Louisiana keeps electing governors who are crooks and love themselves.
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