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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:57 pm to go ta hell ole miss
nothing will beat the companies of the 19th century. They could work kids 15 hours a day. Kill thousands in accidents and do as they wish.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:00 pm to mikelbr
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Any businesses that were directly involved with slave auctions or indirectly fostered slave trade in the United States are the top of my list.
Who is better off, the descendants of the slaves or the descendants of the ones that stayed on the continent?
While slavery was a horrible immoral institution, we need to also look and see that it's lasting effects weren't all negative.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:03 pm to CaptN
Has anyone mentioned Lehman Brothers? Or any corporation that was involved in one of the biggest economic crisis this country has experienced?
All of the subprime lending going on. Lending companies would target people to make loans to because those loans were being sold to Fanny Mae Freddie Mac, etc who were pretty fabricating a commodity people were investing in.
I remember watching something about the 2008 housing crisis and they were interviewing this older lady. She said she was approached by two guys from some bank and they asked her if she had plans to buy a new home. She explained to them she couldn't afford it, etc and they told her there job was to make it affordable for people who couldn't afford it, etc.
She got a loan and was told she only had to pay x amount a year (an amount she was able to afford), but then all of a sudden her monthly note almost tripled and she ended up not being able to afford it. She had to foreclose, but after the fact she learned that the guys who "helped" her with the loan used her deceased husband's information.. as if he was still alive.. to get the loan. The loan was approved based on the fact her husband was making x amount a year, etc.
Think about how many people foreclosed..
All of the subprime lending going on. Lending companies would target people to make loans to because those loans were being sold to Fanny Mae Freddie Mac, etc who were pretty fabricating a commodity people were investing in.
I remember watching something about the 2008 housing crisis and they were interviewing this older lady. She said she was approached by two guys from some bank and they asked her if she had plans to buy a new home. She explained to them she couldn't afford it, etc and they told her there job was to make it affordable for people who couldn't afford it, etc.
She got a loan and was told she only had to pay x amount a year (an amount she was able to afford), but then all of a sudden her monthly note almost tripled and she ended up not being able to afford it. She had to foreclose, but after the fact she learned that the guys who "helped" her with the loan used her deceased husband's information.. as if he was still alive.. to get the loan. The loan was approved based on the fact her husband was making x amount a year, etc.
Think about how many people foreclosed..
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:09 pm to Napoleon
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While slavery was a horrible immoral institution, we need to also look and see that it's lasting effects weren't all negative.
Spin it how you want.
The businesses involved in profiting from slave trade were pure evil. I was specific.
This is not a debate over the concept of necessary forced labor.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:12 pm to mikelbr
Trying to justify slavery and all the frickery that went with it with an ends justified the means perspective is more than a little off kilter.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:13 pm to athenslife101
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Has to be independent action with no prompting from government or outside sources.
The current culture of the entire pharmaceutical industry is a close second to the pharmaceutical and textile industry banding together to get the entire hemp industry declared illegal and then spread so much propaganda that people literally forgot the hemp industry ever existed, erased any and all positive aspects of the hemp industry, and replaced all of it with a brilliantly ignorant fear mongering of an invented "reefer madness".
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:16 pm to Peazey
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Trying to justify slavery and all the frickery that went with it with an ends justified the means perspective is more than a little off kilter.
I agree with that.
I was specific about the 'pure evil' b/c the profits made by simply facilitating human trafficking can't be defended in any way no matter how much they spin it.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:20 pm to GaryMyMan
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Chiquita Banana. United Fruit Company (Great New Orleans connection under Sam 'The Banana Man' Zemurray). Basically take your pick of innocent-seeming fruit companies that do business in South & Central America - they've all had their hand in political coups, terrible workers' rights' abuses, and other crazy stuff.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:53 pm to Peazey
The ends don't justify the means at all. There really was no good to it. I just am tired of hearing about how evil white people were because our ancestors had slaves.
When in reality the people here because the descended from that evil institution are better off than the descendants of the people who sold them into slavery on the continent in the first place. It's not a spin, it's an elephant in the room that is never mentioned.
When in reality the people here because the descended from that evil institution are better off than the descendants of the people who sold them into slavery on the continent in the first place. It's not a spin, it's an elephant in the room that is never mentioned.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 6:10 pm to athenslife101
Heard BP had a little oil spill
Posted on 12/27/16 at 6:16 pm to athenslife101
DuPont and the Ohio river.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 6:21 pm to athenslife101
Posted on 12/28/16 at 12:40 am to athenslife101
LINK
This ranks high. Ordered workers to do illegal and dangerous things which resulted in deaths.
I used to live in NEPA seemed ever summer a cave in happened in someones back yard an an in ground swimming pool would vanish. I have no facts to back this next part up, but i was always told that there is still no complete map where all the tunnels went making certain areas more dangerous to build houses.
This ranks high. Ordered workers to do illegal and dangerous things which resulted in deaths.
I used to live in NEPA seemed ever summer a cave in happened in someones back yard an an in ground swimming pool would vanish. I have no facts to back this next part up, but i was always told that there is still no complete map where all the tunnels went making certain areas more dangerous to build houses.
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