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re: What is the logic behind closing schools?

Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30955 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Until April 24th here.


Wow. Nice job psycho mainstream media and sky screamers
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Easy:

People your kids interact with by going to school >>> people your kids interact with while staying home
That's easy because it in no way accounts for all the variables and how big the impact of this decision will be. That's the point of this thread.

The actual math should be much more complicated than that.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4668 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Find a babysitter

Even if there were enough people available to babysit, there are thousands of public school kids whose parents aren't going to be able to afford paying a babysitter for 8-10 hours per day for a month, so off to Grandma's house they go.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:49 pm to
LINK

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Simulation studies suggest that school closure can be a useful control measure during an influenza pandemic, particularly for reducing peak demand on health services. However, it is difficult to accurately quantify the likely benefits. Further studies of the effects of reactive school closures on contact patterns are needed to improve the accuracy of model predictions.


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School closures appear to have the potential to reduce influenza transmission, but the heterogeneity in the data available means that the optimum strategy (eg, the ideal length and timing of closure) remains unclear.


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However, it may also suggest that school closures may be more effective in isolating children in urban areas. The findings on lost work time are similar to the study in Pennsylvania [9]. In both cases, the majority of households reported no lost time from work because of the school closures. This is not surprising, as more than half of the households surveyed had at least 1 nonworking adult at both locales. As expected, those households where all adults worked outside the home had a higher probability of reporting time lost from work.


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Two historical studies (holidays in France and the experience of US cities in 1918) provide information on the likely maximum health effect of school closure in past epidemics and pandemics, each of them come with their own limitations. Those two datasets suggest that, in an optimistic scenario, closure of schools during a pandemic might have some effect on the total number of cases (maybe a 15% reduction), but cause larger reductions (around 40%) in peak attack rates.



Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59223 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:50 pm to
I appreciate all the melt policing you’ve been doing lately. You’re doing good work, keep it up kiddo
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26605 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:51 pm to
This seems to fall under the government mandate of "well, we have to do something." Which usually causes more problems than it solves.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21612 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:51 pm to
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Find a babysitter. 20+ kids packed in a small classroom breathing and coughing all over each other for 8 hours a day. Yeah that will spread like wildfire.
we ( wife and i) co-own a daycare, plus we both work other jobs. We are near capacity with around 100 kids. Our director said people have been ringing the phone all day scrambling in anticipation of the school shut down. We told her not to accept anymore new kids. We hired two ladies last week just to clean. I have the same concerns you do about one of our kids getting sick. We’ve asked parents if your kid shows any symptoms to please stay home and if they bring their kid in sick we will not accept him/her in the building
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30013 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:53 pm to
Considering many schools have had Spring Break recently, there’s no way to figure out who has been where.

If you understand limiting gatherings of people to 50 or less, then you should understand this.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40815 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:58 pm to
England is taking a totally different approach to this that I kinda hope they stick to. It will give us another method to see what works best.

They think two things:

1) They don't think peak is until 14 weeks from now so they don't want to put people inside now who will be sick of that shite by then and less likely to continue compliance.

2) They want to encourage herd immunity and want some people to get sick.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8021 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:00 pm to
It's not as bad as it seems. For most schools, they would have been already off for spring break,as well as Good Friday. So the students are only missing 14 days which will be made up in June.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:03 pm to
Stop squirting out so many filthy kids. Problem solved.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:03 pm to
This isolation is just to prevent as much spread as possible so that more testing can be done.

Once the mass testing comes around, once people are checked out and ok, they can go back to normal. But because we do not have massive testing right now (massive governmental fail), these are the steps needs to prevent outbreak.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:03 pm to
Mass hysteria and logic are not compatible
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:05 pm to
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colorchangintiger
So what's the verdict?
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43029 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:05 pm to
All of these kids are going to have summer school. No summer breaks for teachers.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54443 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:06 pm to
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I just got off the conference call with the Head of the Health Department, Dr Dobbs. At this time, they are NOT recommending schools close.


From a health provider and member of my board in MS.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:06 pm to
I've wondered about that strategy to dude.

think it's better then ours
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:09 pm to
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If you understand limiting gatherings of people to 50 or less, then you should understand this.
I don't understand that either. If you're not shutting down stores and public places, what's the point of limiting the size of gatherings to an arbitrary number of people?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29103 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

England is taking a totally different approach to this that I kinda hope they stick to. It will give us another method to see what works best.

They think two things:

1) They don't think peak is until 14 weeks from now so they don't want to put people inside now who will be sick of that shite by then and less likely to continue compliance.

2) They want to encourage herd immunity and want some people to get sick.
Logical. Rational. If only we could get some of that here.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2419 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:10 pm to
I get why they're doing it but to do it for a month now is a little much. Why not start at 2 weeks and the evaluate if you need to extend it?
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