re: What is the logic behind closing schools?

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more importantly, protecting the healthcare system, the most important part of the equation.

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this is the real reason

once it was clear that Orleans Parish (as expected) was the epicenter with EBR (as expected) running #2, they had to address the best way to prevent destroying our ER/hospital capacity

what population uses the ER as their primary doctor and would flood them for treatment? the same that fricks everything else up in this state and whose primary populations live in Orleans and EBR parish. this is about limiting their potential exposure and the only way that the state can do that is by shutting down congregations, of which school is the largest and most consistent

there are similar effects to other populations, but those are less likely to seek medical care at ERs. our ERs simply cannot handle a flood of children who are super low risk but will have to be treated.

however, this may work itself out b/c it appears that the regulations of EMTALA may be relaxed during the testing phase that we're about to begin. that will be interesting

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An entire month from the get-go is excessive and arbitrary. It is extremely costly and the benefit cannot be calculated.

And I'm moonbat crazy?

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it's like the amount of the stimulus

it had to be certain and large to calm fear. fear/panic is a much bigger issue than COVID-19

if they did it for 2 weeks and that wasn't enough, things would go absolutely batshit insane when they announced a continuation

4 is probably too much but it's large enough to make major damage (hopefully) and it's a certain number people can plan around

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Sure, we can estimate the problems of an overwhelmed healthcare system. What we cannot estimate is the extent of those problems if we cancel school vs. if we don't. That is what I'm trying to get at here.

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i think you can calculate that, or at least estimate it

i'll summarize the argument: hospital beds are worth a lot more than a nurse. we can loses a lot of nurses. we can't lose hospital beds

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their larger advantage is social grace/expectations, but considering their insanely packed urban areas and how they flattened the curve, it seems to be working. we're basically cut off the head of spread with a katana blade rather than death by 1000 papercuts

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How do you know they flattened the curve? No one does. It’s very possible that either they already had it or it hasn’t made its way there yet in numbers enough to effect them.

Your argument about beds is absurd. If that’s the case, the government should have put cots and ventilators into mass production 3 weeks ago instead. Then, you are putting people to work and solving the issue instead of stopping work.

Eta: again, we know almost nothing about this disease and any doctor worth a damn admits that. We probably won’t know much for many months. It’s very very possible this disease is asymptomatic in almost everyone outside of those with very defined underlying issues in which it gets very bad. And that no one has slowed it down, there’s just populations it doesn’t effect.

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Your argument about beds is absurd. If that’s the case, the government should have put cots and ventilators into mass production 3 weeks ago instead.

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dude. stop. this isn't fricking Outbreak or Contagion

and it's not as simple as snapping your finger and producing these things, plus it would be wasteful as we'd have an excess supply of ventilators left over when this passes in a month or 2. THAT is insane when the alternative is free and unwasteful (stay out of the fricking hospital unless you have major symptoms)

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It’s very very possible this disease is asymptomatic in almost everyone outside of those with very defined underlying issues in which it gets very bad. And that no one has slowed it down, there’s just populations it doesn’t effect.

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How did you even come up with this? Anything is possible, but there is no reason to think this and no evidence to support it.

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Welcome to 2020 folks where managing a pandemic is dismissed as virtue signaling

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if the government had just gagged the press from fear mongering (so they could get political points) and given instructions on proper social etiquette to fight the spread of COVID-19, we'd be a lot better off right now. we'd have sacrificed a lot fewer rights overall, too

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If only the government had muzzled the free press we'd have so many more liberties!

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they're not a holy institution and due to their intentional promotion of hysterics, hundreds of millions of people have lost more rights than they'd have given up. if you want to have a balancing test, the media would lose

*ETA: it's the same with school shootings. we allow the press to editorialize as fact reporting and then support giving up another fundamental right (the 2nd amendment). there is no precedence in our Bill of Rights

How does the tenor of the coverage of an event influence the reality of it? The virus behaves differently depending on how the media talks about it? Italy is shutdown because of hysterical media coverage?

ETA: why don't we just go full China and censor out anything the government doesn't like under the guise of the "greater public good."