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re: What is a covenant marriage, and how did Louisiana come to have them?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:26 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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I think you are misinterpreting. Symbolic gestures take a lot of heat, but there is power in symbolism. Choosing a course of action (in this case, covenant marriage) demonstrates a certain amount of resolve. The pleasant reality of this process is that it is difficult. Mrs. Midnight and I eloped - it literally took 2 hours over 2 days, all in.
Not the conversion to covenant - that was many hours of work over several weeks - and at least got us thinking about the committment we were already living and breathing every day.
So, I would disagree with the law - IF it were something that could be impulsively entered. But it isn't.
As it is - we have far too many easy marriages, impulsively entered, and (while the divorce lawyers and courts love the business) even the "no fault" divorces are expensive and time-consuming. Somehow just saying, out loud, in front of everyone, "We really want to avoid that if at all possible" can only work to strengthen a bond, I would think.
Certainly can't hurt.
I hear you. I don't think someone of your character would need this, but I suppose it can't hurt!
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:37 pm to MrLSU
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And the divorce rate is 73% for covenant marriages.
That's higher than I would have guessed, but not all that surprising. Shortly after it went into effect, I heard that some church ministers were pressuring people in their congregations who wanted to get married to enter into covenant marriages. I heard there were some who didn't really want to do it, but gave in to the preachers' pressure and did so. I never verified these stories, but I thought at the time that, if true, it was a recipe for disaster because people who were pressured into it would probably be more likely to be uncomfortable with it and want out.
In a backwards sort of way, I guess it might have made some people more inclined to get divorced because of how long and arduous the process was. At the first signs of trouble, the reasoning might have been that if it's going to take years to get through the process, they should go ahead and get it started sooner rather than later. If it were easier to divorce, they might be more willing to wait longer and give it a chance before pulling the trigger, knowing that they could always get a fairly quick divorce later on if they needed to.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:40 pm to Ace Midnight
i just got married in December. After discussions with the Deacon presiding over our wedding, we chose to not go the covenant marriage route. The feeling is that our covenant is our faith in our marriage, and that we shouldn't have to rely on a secular contract (really all the marriage license is) to enforce that. I'm a firm believer in morality over legality - my wife and I don't need legal "roadblocks" to an easy divorce to ensure we stay together and work through our problems.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 3:56 pm to therick711
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I will take this opportunity to continue to fight stupid statistics that keep getting repeated but aren't and have never been true.
Here's something from the website of a family law firm in, apparently, Washington state (I have no idea how credible these numbers are)...
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About 1 percent of the total number of currently married same-sex couples gets divorced each year, in comparison to about 2 percent of married straight couples. (Note that the percent of couples that get divorced eventually is 50 percent, but only one or two percent get divorced in a particular year.)
LINK
Posted on 8/21/15 at 4:54 pm to Artie Rome
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Is that true. If so, wow.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:29 pm to bigjuice56
Yes. The pro covenant folks are saying: We don't trust that our love and faith are strong enough to keep us married no matter how much we think we love each other and Jesus. So we want a state law that puts a government obstacle to us destroying our holy bonds. Please involve the government and bureaucracy to the greatest extent in our sacramental relationship.
And every one will tell you they favor small government.
And every one will tell you they favor small government.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:32 pm to MrLSU
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And the divorce rate is 73% for covenant marriages.
Link ?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:33 pm to Evolved Simian
Blame Tony Perkins. He introduced the bill when he was in the state legislature.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:34 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Religious idiots thinking that if it were really hard and expensive to get a divorce, people wouldn't get divorced and would therefore stay in bad marriages and that would somehow be a good thing.
Or maybe you'd think twice before marrying an idiot.
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