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What is a covenant marriage, and how did Louisiana come to have them?

Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:58 pm
They also apparently exist in Arkansas and Arizona, and there are pretty strict requirements for divorce.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:00 pm to
It's a marriage where you promise not to use Ashley Madison
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:02 pm to
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how did Louisiana come to have them?


Professor Spaht.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:04 pm to
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It's a marriage where you promise not to use Ashley Madison


Seems like a lot of people should just have taken whatever the other option was.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:06 pm to
Like a regular marriage but no butt stuff.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:07 pm to
It's only been a thing here since 1997, apparently. Article explaining the history:

LINK
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:08 pm to
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What is a covenant marriage


Special type of marriage that makes you wait years and jump through a ton of hoops if you ever want to get divorced.

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how did Louisiana come to have them?


Religious idiots thinking that if it were really hard and expensive to get a divorce, people wouldn't get divorced and would therefore stay in bad marriages and that would somehow be a good thing. They were assisted by a law professor at LSU who for some idiotic reason agreed with them and had enough credibility with the legislature to convince them to pass it. I loved it because I was practicing family law in Louisiana at that time, and could make ten times as much from a covenant marriage divorce as I could from a normal divorce.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:11 pm to
You have to go through pre-marriage counseling with a religious figure or marriage counselor on the importance and seriousness of the commitment and sign certain agreements that you will go through counseling if troubles arise, etc. Harder to enter into, harder to get out of. Only like 1% of marriages are covenant marriages.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:12 pm to
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They were assisted by a law professor at LSU who for some idiotic reason agreed with them and had enough credibility with the legislature to convince them to pass it.

It "came to her in a dream". For reals.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:13 pm to
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rofessor Spaht.



This 100%. Covenant marriage was her baby. She made sure to get it in. You gotta make sure to include religion in marriage!
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Only like 1% of marriages are covenant marriages.


And the divorce rate is 73% for covenant marriages.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Religious idiots thinking that if it were really hard and expensive to get a divorce, people wouldn't get divorced and would therefore stay in bad marriages and that would somehow be a good thing.

Or maybe think twice about jumping into a marriage? Maybe date for 2 or 3 yrs instead of 2 or 3 months?
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:14 pm to
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You gotta make sure to include religion in marriage!

It's been amended since so there doesn't have to be a religious element. But the spirit of the statute was to bring religion back into the public arena, specifically marriage.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:24 pm to
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And the divorce rate is 73% for covenant marriages.


Is that true. If so, wow.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:56 pm to
why can't divorce be illegal? using the reasoning of gay marriage kids should not have to have divorced parents.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:59 pm to
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why can't divorce be illegal? using the reasoning of gay marriage kids should not have to have divorced parents.


Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11638 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Or maybe think twice about jumping into a marriage? Maybe date for 2 or 3 yrs instead of 2 or 3 months?


That won't happen. Everybody thinks they'll be the ones to beat the odds.

I had to wait 6 months to get a divorce with no kids. They should make people wait 6 months to get married after applying for a license.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:05 pm to
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why can't divorce be illegal?


When divorce is outlawed, only outlaws will get divorced.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:05 pm to
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That won't happen. Everybody thinks they'll be the ones to beat the odds.


Beat what odds?
Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:06 pm to
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Everybody thinks they'll be the ones to beat the odds.


Most educated people that get married, stay married.
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