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re: What happens when we die?

Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:29 am to
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:29 am to
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I'm referring more to the energy that causes our brain to fire in order to create our conscience


Well that "energy" is the electrochemical impulse passed from one neuron to another via neurotransmitter... and when you die, that doesn't happen anymore....
Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:29 am to
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I'm referring more to the energy that causes our brain to fire in order to create our conscience


Blood? Glucose?
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by G Khan
the basin
Member since Mar 2007
494 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:35 am to
Let me know when you run into some of that DMT...:)
Posted by Titan
Member since Apr 2008
2476 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:36 am to
Only the ones who have died know. Unfortunately as living humans we will NEVER know. I personally believe in GOD as our creator and HE is the supreme being. This shite is way bigger than we can ever wrap our heads around. However smart we think we are, we humans will NEVER be smart enough to figure out GOD and his work. This is a futile experiment and why you must follow your faith. If you have faith.......
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3084 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:38 am to
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As most people should know when our body finally realizes we are dying it releases a chemical named DMT into your brain. You can look this up, it's an actual drug you can get your hands on but the people who have taken are changed forever. You basically see dead or what technically happens after/during death.


Yeah, I looked this up. No. Do your research better next time.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75834 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:40 am to
quote:

There is no significance of humanity in the universe at all, there was even less of chance of humanity becoming humanity.


The life force of the Universe is pure source consciousness. All of the forms in space in this dimension and other dimensions of the universe including humans, animals, planets, galaxies, stars etc. are simply the conscious universe becoming more aware of itself through gradations of self awareness. Humans are here to allow Universal Source Consciousness (God) evolve and gradually become more and more aware of itself. Have to go find my bong now.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75834 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:43 am to
quote:

rantfan


quote:

I for one believe that their is something else after we die, a spiritual life that every religion has gotten wrong. I have personally witnessed a spiritual event with at least 6 other people who witnessed the same.(i will not get into that on this thread)

I believe we have lessons to learn in this realm and we learn them in steps. Think of it like the school system as in grades. Every grade you learn more and move on and so on. I believe we have to keep being reborn until a certain level of consciousness is learned.

This is my belief and only mine and will never push it on anyone else. I think that knowledge of the universe is the answer to the age old question of what is the meaning of life. Knowledge of everything in the entire universe is what we all have been wanting isn't it.We just go about trying to learn it in different ways. Some use science some use religion. I just try to learn by thinking in studies of the spiritual and scientific combined.



Nailed it. And expressed beautifully.
Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:44 am to
quote:

The life force of the Universe is pure source consciousness. All of the forms in space in this dimension and other dimensions of the universe including humans, animals, planets, galaxies, stars etc. are simply the conscious universe becoming more aware of itself through gradations of self awareness. Humans are here to allow Universal Source Consciousness (God) evolve and gradually become more and more aware of itself. Have to go find my bong now.


While I can understand the whole Universe being self aware through conscience I feel that there is some Deepak Chopra woowoo word salad going on here.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 9:45 am
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16334 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:45 am to
The dead know only one thing; it is better to be alive.
Posted by BreakingBadPart2
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:45 am to
I am curious to know what God you believe in, if you say are a confirmed Roman Catholic? This isn't a sarcastic question at all so I hope you don't take it that way. But if you believe the God of your church, which is based on the truths of the bible, it actually says that the only way to heaven is through Jesus. This is why we see the crucifixions of Jesus in most Catholic Churches. The reason Jesus came was to die for the sins of the world, making it possible to go to heaven. If Jesus is the center of the Roman Catholic and overall Christian belief system, that means He is the absolute necessity of our salvation. Which means nothing good OR bad that we do can get us into heaven, if that were true, there would be no point in Jesus...

With that being said, I am not here to have a theological debate but to simply lay out the facts of the Christian faith here.

But, I do believe 100% there is a heaven and hell, and that when we die we go either way depending on your choice to believe in Jesus or not.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 9:46 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25509 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Jesus & Harambe.


The after death lore of these two is remarkably similar.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:49 am to
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Only the ones who have died know.


Or...they don't, right? If the lights simply go out, then there's is no "ah-ha" moment. It's why I've always been kind of amused by the taunt many religious people feel the need to make to we nonbelivers...that we'll know who was right when we die. Given I happen to think the lights likely just go out, I don't get to retort to that...just simply nod and smile with the thought that if I'm right, you'll never know it and never know you were wrong. Kind of a hollow "victory."

All that being said, I see no evidence anything happens when we die. We simply stop existing which is what was happening before we started existing. Our lot in life is knowing that we'll die and coming to grips with that. Some of us have a need to be bigger than that...to have to "live" forever. That's an appealing notion, for sure. I kind of like existing. but I think it's nothing more than wishful thinking to believe that actually happens, with no real evidence it does.

But at the same time, I've long ago gotten over the fear of not existing. We all do it every night when we go to sleep. We shake off that mortal coil in one respect and what makes us "us" is no longer driving and at time is simply not there. Fearing being dead seems silly to me. The only thing scary about that would be illogically assuming you'd retain some sense of being...which of course would mean that you know you're dead and no longer existing...which makes no sense.

Now...DYING frightens me some. From leaving my wife and sons, to realizing there will be parts of their life I'll never know...that there will be a day where these babies I raised go on without me. Like the Hitchens' quote from earlier about the party going on without you...that stings. And there is the worry of dying painfully, obviously. But not being dead...
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59822 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:49 am to
This is for anybody going through tough times
Believe it, been there, done that
But everyday above ground is a great day, remember that
Pitbull - Time Of Our Lives
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
111721 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:52 am to
Has there been a definitive answer to your question yet? And that near death out of body crap don't count.
Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Or...they don't, right? If the lights simply go out, then there's is no "ah-ha" moment. It's why I've always been kind of amused by the taunt many religious people feel the need to make to we nonbelivers...that we'll know who was right when we die. Given I happen to think the lights likely just go out, I don't get to retort to that...just simply nod and smile with the thought that if I'm right, you'll never know it and never know you were wrong. Kind of a hollow "victory."

All that being said, I see no evidence anything happens when we die. We simply stop existing which is what was happening before we started existing. Our lot in life is knowing that we'll die and coming to grips with that. Some of us have a need to be bigger than that...to have to "live" forever. That's an appealing notion, for sure. I kind of like existing. but I think it's nothing more than wishful thinking to believe that actually happens, with no real evidence it does.

But at the same time, I've long ago gotten over the fear of not existing. We all do it every night when we go to sleep. We shake off that mortal coil in one respect and what makes us "us" is no longer driving and at time is simply not there. Fearing being dead seems silly to me. The only thing scary about that would be illogically assuming you'd retain some sense of being...which of course would mean that you know you're dead and no longer existing...which makes no sense.

Now...DYING frightens me some. From leaving my wife and sons, to realizing there will be parts of their life I'll never know...that there will be a day where these babies I raised go on without me. Like the Hitchens' quote from earlier about the party going on without you...that stings. And there is the worry of dying painfully, obviously. But not being dead...


I pretty much agree 100% here.
Posted by Titan
Member since Apr 2008
2476 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:55 am to
Great view point. I'm not arguing your point at all. The ones who die may or may not know. All I am saying is that as living humans I believe this is way bigger than our small brains can answer. And I believe our creator made it that way. So trying to figure it out in my opinion is a waste of what little time we have.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2537 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:58 am to
I haven't read all of the responses yet but may try later. I haven't spent much time thinking about these specific questions but think that somehow our energy from life is transferred to another realm at death.

I also personally believe in some sort of life after death, although not sure if this includes a 'God'. Hopefully?
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 10:01 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:01 am to
your post is about religion.

after death is the point of John 3:16

after death is how fundamentalist Islam gets guys to be suicide bombers.

after death is the practice for most Buddhists, learning meditations that allow the attention to go up into the brain core and even leave the body which is literal "practice" for the death process.

Posted by stonerolledaway
the villages
Member since Jul 2011
982 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:03 am to
Actually since Adam sinned we are all born dead spiritually, this is why Christ told Nicodemus you must be born again. Those who trust Christ actually are made alive spiritually and have eternal life, the subsequent bodily death is just the old man being thrown off. Those who reject Christ are already 'walking dead' and when the body dies will face judgment and also the second death which is the soul in the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:6 - Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 10:05 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75834 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

NoHoTiger


Peace be with you, NoHo. I'm sorry to hear that. Keep the memories alive and take it one day at a time.
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