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re: What happens to inmates
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:49 pm to Packer
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:49 pm to Packer
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When I was in the military, we would escort people in the brig to and from medical appointments. They had a basic nurse on staff at the brig, but for any more complicated procedure 2 Marines would escort them in handcuffs.
So you were an MP?
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:54 pm to Darth_Vader
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So you were an MP?
No, I took an escort/chaser course (Babysitting 101 LINK ). From my experience, MP's didn't transport brig inmates to and from appointments. The inmate's unit would have chaser certified Marines that they would send to do this.
When I'm talking inmates, I'm talking guys who were caught with drugs, arrested for assault/DUI's, etc. and not murderers.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:55 pm to Packer
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When I was in the military, we would escort people in the brig to and from medical appointments. They had a basic nurse on staff at the brig, but for any more complicated procedure 2 Marines would escort them in handcuffs.
I was a chaser a few times. Never had any issues.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:56 pm to Packer
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From my experience, MP's didn't transport brig inmates to and from appointments. The inmate's unit would have chaser certified Marines that they would send to do this.
When I'm talking inmates, I'm talking guys who were caught with drugs, arrested for assault/DUI's, etc. and not murderers.
You are correct. Most of the ones I saw were guys that went UA.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:57 pm to Packer
Oh, guess Marines do it differently than the Army. Thankfully I never had any personal experience, but from what I remember any inmate interactions like that were handled by the much hated MPs.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:58 pm to TheFonz
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I will say it is rare; in my 11 years at my present position, I've only heard of four or five cases where an inmate from a state facility has been able to attend the funeral of a parent; and you are right about them being cuffed, shackled, and in jail garb under armed guard when they attend. But it can be done.
I think what helped this guy was the fact he was still in a Parish Jail and not a State Prison situation at the time of his mother's death. May have been a lot different if he was already in a State facility.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:01 pm to Darth_Vader
MPs don't do much of that stuff, especially in the Marine Corps. Another little known fact is that a lot of MPs aren't even 5811. They are faps from other units (usually the shite heads).
If they go to the brig, the facility staff is there to do their job. It's up to the unit to transport to medical, legal, and other things. Like the other guy said, a few Marines from the unit will take a chaser course and will be the ones who do it.
If they go to the brig, the facility staff is there to do their job. It's up to the unit to transport to medical, legal, and other things. Like the other guy said, a few Marines from the unit will take a chaser course and will be the ones who do it.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:05 pm to TheFonz
Yeah it depends on a few factors, non violent, good behavior, risk of them running etc... and they are always under guard. If you're in for a violent crime or have been trouble forget about. But if it's a simple possession or some sort white collar crime and you've been good they'd probably allow it for a parent, s/o, or sibling.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:05 pm to Hangover Haven
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Angola inmates
Wasn't Billy Cannon a dentist at Angola?
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:14 pm to CatsGoneWild
We were at Angola for the Prision Rodeo and at the warden’s event on a separate part of property. My son was playing on an old piece of military equipment and hit his head. Small nick but blood everywhere. The prision sent the prision ambulance over and after a little cleanup determined stitches were not required. We concurred, but has stitches been needed they were prepared to bring him to the prision’s hospital for any care that was needed.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:20 pm to CatsGoneWild
We frequent OPP quite often. Actually the Fire Station on Jeff Davis is called “The Big House” because of the amount of calls to the prison they get. Whether it’s fire alarms or medicals or the idiots purposely breaking the sprinkler heads, its a constant call throughout a 24 hr tour.
I spent 4 years at that station, and I’ve had hundreds of inmates with various injuries. They get treated just like anyone else, except they’re escorted out with EMS and transported to local hospitals, mainly Tulane because it’s the closest, or UMC, only if its a trauma.
We use to mess with the other inmates thru the doors and ask who’s banging who in the arse tonight. Often we would get threatened to be killed when they got out.
If you’ve never been in the old OPP, not holding for misdemeanors, but the prison section, it’s a pretty dark place. 15 guys smashed in a 10x10 cell like sardines. The newer prison is way nicer. Still full of animals though.
I spent 4 years at that station, and I’ve had hundreds of inmates with various injuries. They get treated just like anyone else, except they’re escorted out with EMS and transported to local hospitals, mainly Tulane because it’s the closest, or UMC, only if its a trauma.
We use to mess with the other inmates thru the doors and ask who’s banging who in the arse tonight. Often we would get threatened to be killed when they got out.
If you’ve never been in the old OPP, not holding for misdemeanors, but the prison section, it’s a pretty dark place. 15 guys smashed in a 10x10 cell like sardines. The newer prison is way nicer. Still full of animals though.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:21 pm to CatsGoneWild
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when they get injured, broken bones, need a tooth pulled, need surgery/chemo etc? Or if there's a death in the family? Do they get to go to a hospital? Do they get to go to a funeral if their parent/ S.O., child, or sibling die?
Check your privilege, bruh. I also like the LP style subtle brag that you don't have any locked up relatives
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:22 pm to Snipe
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They are afforded necessary medical care, including cancer treatment and gender reassignment surgery.
FIFY
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:24 pm to momentoftruth87
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MPs don't do much of that stuff, especially in the Marine Corps. Another little known fact is that a lot of MPs aren't even 5811. They are faps from other units (usually the shite heads).
If they go to the brig, the facility staff is there to do their job. It's up to the unit to transport to medical, legal, and other things. Like the other guy said, a few Marines from the unit will take a chaser course and will be the ones who do it.
Ah. I never interacted much at all with MPs. Tried avoiding them like the plague. Only time I ever had much dealing with them is when they’d come out in the field to train for their secondary flank guard training. We’d have to train with them in combined arms tactics.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:24 pm to Sidicous
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The prisoners don't usually mess with the med staff.
When I worked at UH after Katrina, the prisoners were usually pretty cool with us, and were really very appreciative...
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:25 pm to ChineseBandit66
Being released to attend a funeral is usually based on ones custody level. Violent and sex crime offenders are an automatic no. Non-violent offenders are at the discretion of the warden.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:37 pm to CatsGoneWild
Huey P. Long before it closed. Now, IDK.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:39 pm to CatsGoneWild
18 U.S. Code § 3622 - Temporary release of a prisoner
The Bureau of Prisons may release a prisoner from the place of his imprisonment for a limited period if such release appears to be consistent with the purpose for which the sentence was imposed and any pertinent policy statement issued by the Sentencing Commission pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 994(a)(2), if such release otherwise appears to be consistent with the public interest and if there is reasonable cause to believe that a prisoner will honor the trust to be imposed in him, by authorizing him, under prescribed conditions, to—
(a) visit a designated place for a period not to exceed thirty days, and then return to the same or another facility, for the purpose of—
(1) visiting a relative who is dying;
(2) attending a funeral of a relative;
(3) obtaining medical treatment not otherwise available;
(4) contacting a prospective employer;
(5) establishing or reestablishing family or community ties; or
(6) engaging in any other significant activity consistent with the public interest;
(b) participate in a training or educational program in the community while continuing in official detention at the prison facility; or
(c) work at paid employment in the community while continuing in official detention at the penal or correctional facility if—
(1) the rates of pay and other conditions of employment will not be less than those paid or provided for work of a similar nature in the community; and
(2) the prisoner agrees to pay to the Bureau such costs incident to official detention as the Bureau finds appropriate and reasonable under all the circumstances, such costs to be collected by the Bureau and deposited in the Treasury to the credit of the appropriation available for such costs at the time such collections are made.
The Bureau of Prisons may release a prisoner from the place of his imprisonment for a limited period if such release appears to be consistent with the purpose for which the sentence was imposed and any pertinent policy statement issued by the Sentencing Commission pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 994(a)(2), if such release otherwise appears to be consistent with the public interest and if there is reasonable cause to believe that a prisoner will honor the trust to be imposed in him, by authorizing him, under prescribed conditions, to—
(a) visit a designated place for a period not to exceed thirty days, and then return to the same or another facility, for the purpose of—
(1) visiting a relative who is dying;
(2) attending a funeral of a relative;
(3) obtaining medical treatment not otherwise available;
(4) contacting a prospective employer;
(5) establishing or reestablishing family or community ties; or
(6) engaging in any other significant activity consistent with the public interest;
(b) participate in a training or educational program in the community while continuing in official detention at the prison facility; or
(c) work at paid employment in the community while continuing in official detention at the penal or correctional facility if—
(1) the rates of pay and other conditions of employment will not be less than those paid or provided for work of a similar nature in the community; and
(2) the prisoner agrees to pay to the Bureau such costs incident to official detention as the Bureau finds appropriate and reasonable under all the circumstances, such costs to be collected by the Bureau and deposited in the Treasury to the credit of the appropriation available for such costs at the time such collections are made.
Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:55 pm to 337Tigah
After HPL went down Carbine got most of them.
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