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Posted on 3/17/25 at 3:57 pm to dallastiger55
quote:that’s not true - when I teach the Bible I like to mention that David was peeping at Bathsheba in the bath (lol) then he killed her husband because he wanted her.
Also, nobody ever quotes the negative stuff in the Bible,
Also Noah got drunk after the flood waters went down. That’s a good one.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 3:59 pm to UFFan
This is what did it for. There is so much evil in the world that god has to exist.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:00 pm to UFFan
Because you need a creator. If two things slammed into each other, a creator made those two things slam into each other.
If you believe the Bible, you will understand there is a God. Jesus was born to take on our sins so that we can live with him and God (which both are Gods) in a perfect universe eventually.
If you believe the Bible, you will understand there is a God. Jesus was born to take on our sins so that we can live with him and God (which both are Gods) in a perfect universe eventually.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:00 pm to UFFan
God doesn't want you to be a douche and I agree with that mantra mostly
I like to think of Jesus looks like a bum is walking towards me. I am thinking I am about to punch this bum, but so.ething hits me that this bum is different. Turns out it is Jesus
I like to think of Jesus looks like a bum is walking towards me. I am thinking I am about to punch this bum, but so.ething hits me that this bum is different. Turns out it is Jesus
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:00 pm to xBirdx
quote:Physical evidence isn't the only type of evidence proving someone existed. If that were true then you can't say anybody existed before the invention of the photograph. Did Julius Caesar exist? There is 1000x more evidence for Jesus' existence.
No, evidence is physical, for anyone to see.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:02 pm to UFFan
what else are women going to scream in bed?
"oh my non-existent diety!" ?
"oh my non-existent diety!" ?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:03 pm to StrongOffer
I’m dont really know if he did or not…
The question is “do you believe?”
The question is “do you believe?”
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:04 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:go away and let me sleep
what else are women going to scream in bed? "oh my non-existent diety!" ?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:04 pm to GumboPot
Yep, God is Love.
The laws of nature are consistent with regard to what is valued and what is not. A lion will fight to protect his young. It’s nature’s way. The moment a new lion takes over a pride it will kill the cubs to eliminate future competition and induce fertility among the lioness’s. A lion is indifferent to a beetle. It plays no part in the lion’s natural need to survive and have its young survive. This is natural law.
But there’s a different, higher law that humans are tuned in to. If we behaved as the lion does to competitors it’s seen as immoral, evil.
Instead we find it virtuous to forgive enemies, to help the stranger. We feel freed and whole when we fulfill this desire. When Japanese women were hurling themselves to their deaths while clutching their children during WW2 US Marines pleaded with them not to do it and were deeply saddened and troubled by the deaths. Why? Where did these feelings come from? Certainly not nature… they run counter to natural law. It’s illogical. But our hearts sing when we give in to this illogical love. This illogical love wouldn’t seem to be a product of evolution as it would run counter to survival. So where does this love come from if not from nature?
The exoplanets mentioned earlier remind of the first technique used to detect them: by observing the wobble of a star caused by the mass of a planet revolving around it. I would argue that this illogical love that resides within us as truest truth is the wobble of God.
The laws of nature are consistent with regard to what is valued and what is not. A lion will fight to protect his young. It’s nature’s way. The moment a new lion takes over a pride it will kill the cubs to eliminate future competition and induce fertility among the lioness’s. A lion is indifferent to a beetle. It plays no part in the lion’s natural need to survive and have its young survive. This is natural law.
But there’s a different, higher law that humans are tuned in to. If we behaved as the lion does to competitors it’s seen as immoral, evil.
Instead we find it virtuous to forgive enemies, to help the stranger. We feel freed and whole when we fulfill this desire. When Japanese women were hurling themselves to their deaths while clutching their children during WW2 US Marines pleaded with them not to do it and were deeply saddened and troubled by the deaths. Why? Where did these feelings come from? Certainly not nature… they run counter to natural law. It’s illogical. But our hearts sing when we give in to this illogical love. This illogical love wouldn’t seem to be a product of evolution as it would run counter to survival. So where does this love come from if not from nature?
The exoplanets mentioned earlier remind of the first technique used to detect them: by observing the wobble of a star caused by the mass of a planet revolving around it. I would argue that this illogical love that resides within us as truest truth is the wobble of God.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:04 pm to GreenRockTiger
well played
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:04 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:high honey!!
go away and let me sleep
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:05 pm to UFFan
If you studied prophecy in-depth, you would believe.
Lee Strobel makes good arguments in his book.
Also, the complicated human body debunks evolution in my opinion.
Lee Strobel makes good arguments in his book.
Also, the complicated human body debunks evolution in my opinion.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:05 pm to MorbidTheClown
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:07 pm to UFFan
Well god helped me save my life. For everything I’ve been through the last 10 years god has
Guided me through just awful things. I got sober over 3 years ago with gods help. There’s no way I get or stay sober even when my wife passed away without believing.. but to each his own.
Guided me through just awful things. I got sober over 3 years ago with gods help. There’s no way I get or stay sober even when my wife passed away without believing.. but to each his own.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:07 pm to UFFan
"In the beginning..."
Since there was a beginning, it seems logical that there has to be a "Beginner" or God Himself.
I am in awe of how the cellular structure of the human body exists and cannot imagine that we just came together from a clump of mud and water. Someone had to create the mud.
If one can believe molecules and cells formed from a flash of nothing without a creator, then one should also believe that a perfect replica of a 1957 Chevy 2 door hardtop could have spontaneously formed itself on the dark side of the moon.
Since there was a beginning, it seems logical that there has to be a "Beginner" or God Himself.
I am in awe of how the cellular structure of the human body exists and cannot imagine that we just came together from a clump of mud and water. Someone had to create the mud.
If one can believe molecules and cells formed from a flash of nothing without a creator, then one should also believe that a perfect replica of a 1957 Chevy 2 door hardtop could have spontaneously formed itself on the dark side of the moon.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:10 pm to xBirdx
quote:We know he existed bro. People can argue whether he rose from the dead because that doesn't happen every day even with eyewitness testimony, but anyone suggesting he didn't live is simply ignorant or doesn't want it to be true.
I’m done rally know if he did or not…
Posted on 3/17/25 at 5:04 pm to UFFan
The isssue with Pascal’s wager is it treats belief in god as a binary choice.
This would only work if there was one religion that claimed a God, as well as an afterlife.
However, there are many religions that have a fairly similar framework. By definition, all of us, even the devout and non-hypocritical types, are rejecting many forms of god.
For example a devout Muslim, a Catholic who goes to mass weekly, and a believer in the prosperity gospel.
This would only work if there was one religion that claimed a God, as well as an afterlife.
However, there are many religions that have a fairly similar framework. By definition, all of us, even the devout and non-hypocritical types, are rejecting many forms of god.
For example a devout Muslim, a Catholic who goes to mass weekly, and a believer in the prosperity gospel.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 5:07 pm to StrongOffer
Not Jesus man- I know he is our Maker.
I was replying to who said “How do we know Julius Caesar existed “
We don’t… we have to believe in the stories, etc. bc there is no physical(video, picture, etc. ) proof
I was replying to who said “How do we know Julius Caesar existed “
We don’t… we have to believe in the stories, etc. bc there is no physical(video, picture, etc. ) proof
Posted on 3/17/25 at 5:07 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:don’t all 3 of these believe in different flavors of the same God of Abraham?
a devout Muslim, a Catholic who goes to mass weekly, and a believer in the prosperity gospel.
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