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re: What good reason is there to believe in God?

Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:21 am to
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:21 am to
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Because it’s illogical to observe such fine tuning in existence around us and think it occurred by accident. The question as to which God is the real one is another chapter entirely but fine tuning is a good place to start.


You think the world we live in is "fine tuned"?
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:27 am to
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Like why do kids get cancer, but total POS’s get rich, etc…. That’s not fair. But it’s for a reason


And what "reason" would there be for kids getting cancer while POSs get rich?

There is no reason for that.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:28 am to
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Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:28 am to
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It gives some people comfort to think someone is in charge and there's a purpose to all this. I'm less and less able to believe that over the years but I respect anyone who still can. I think it does make life easier.


It is a mental crutch. And that is OK as long as you're not trying to force it upon everyone else.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:31 am to
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Can you prove there isn’t a God


Why should he need to?
Posted by Friendly Satan
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:33 am to
God saved Trump from a bullet
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:43 am to
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What good reason is there to believe in God?
Math and music, particularly arpeggios.
Posted by blueboxer1119
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:46 am to
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:47 am to
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There are 500 planets in the Milky Way that meet the "criteria for life". Yet none of them have signs if life.


What? Where did you come up with that number, and what is your definition of "signs of life"?

Scientists have estimated that 1 in 5 stars like our Sun has at least one Earth-like planet orbiting around them, which may support life. Based upon the mapping of our Milky Way, and through simulations, there are an estimated 40 billion planets that might support life in our Milky Way galaxy.

Link to source
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 6:50 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:48 am to
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The Bible will have you believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old.
Like hell it will. The Bible is a theological and anthropological book.
It doesn’t speak on science.

Not familiar with allegory?
I swear, the Enlightenment has destroyed our brains. Damn Protestants.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:56 am to
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Stinger_1066

2004 called. It wants your New Atheism back.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:05 am to
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God saved Trump
Interesting that you would link these two myths together.

Big Religion has done everything in its power to try to convince us of “their” God’s existence.

The Deep State has done everything in its power to try to convince us that Trump is on our side.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:07 am to
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God saved Trump
Please don’t give these kind of comments the time of day.
Posted by Florida_Man1981
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:09 am to
It's funny reading the post history of the "believers" in here. Almost like they don't really believe but are trying to do just enough to hedge their bets in case there is an afterlife.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:11 am to
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Scientists have estimated that 1 in 5 stars like our Sun has at least one Earth-like planet orbiting around them, which may support life. Based upon the mapping of our Milky Way, and through simulations, there are an estimated 40 billion planets that might support life in our Milky Way galaxy.


Well we've discovered about 5,500 exoplanets, and only 20-30 of those are in the habitable zone outside of their stars. There are arguably 2 in our solar system, with Mars being on the outer fringe or just outside of habitable. So if half of those contain life we are talking 10-15 out of every 5,500, and I think thats likely a high estimate.

Even if there are billions of planets with life, how many are likely to be as advanced as we are? Probably not very many.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 7:12 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:12 am to
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It's funny reading the post history of the "believers" in here. Almost like they don't really believe but are trying to do just enough to hedge their bets in case there is an afterlife.
Fear is a powerful tool in herding the sheep.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:18 am to
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Because God set us up to fail. Then he blames us for it and prescribes the direst consequences for something he assured would happen. If a parent did that they'd be arrested for child abuse.



I used to really struggle with these types of issues. The "why does he let kids get cancer" stuff. It is all very valid and I 100% get why I would keep people away from God or religion.

I actually think its more comforting that God is just observing and not interfering all that much (if at all) with the world. If you interfere some you're creating winners and losers..."Why did you save the cancer kid but let my kid get hit by a bus?" type questions. But if the whole point is to see if you live a good life so you can get into heaven it makes more sense to let people actually make choices and be faced with organic situations. So the kid with cancer might not get cured, but the person ultimately responsible for the pollution or whatever else it was that gave him cancer in the first place has to attone for it eventually. That way you still get the "character development" and also there is a semblance of justice as well.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:24 am to
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Everyone serves a god. God, Jesus, Buddha, money, porn, food.
“It may be the devil or it may be the Lord but you know you’re gonna have to serve somebody.”
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:32 am to
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Why did you save the cancer kid but let my kid get hit by a bus?" type questions. But if the whole point is to see if you live a good life so you can get into heaven it makes more sense to let people actually make choices and be faced with organic situations. So the kid with cancer might not get cured, but the person ultimately responsible for the pollution or whatever else it was that gave him cancer in the first place has to attone for it eventually. That way you still get the "character development" and also there is a semblance of justice as well.
Why would anyone worship a God that played such games with our lives?
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:40 am to
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But if the whole point is to see if you live a good life so you can get into heaven


That’s not the point. The point is that you have no hope of earning your way into heaven, that it’s only by grace and the sacrifice of Jesus that you have any hope at all.
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