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re: What exactly is a plant “operator”?
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:52 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:52 am to fightin tigers
quote:Yeah that's what I hear. Hiring should be pretty steady with baby boomers retiring so I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
Keep applying. A lot easier to get into the smaller places
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:05 am to fightin tigers
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Write a defeat protocol and have someone monitor the local gauge in the field at all times and report in at an interval that is deemed safe. It keeps a boiler from tripping and keeps 4 process units from coming down. On those process units are several exchangers that are know leak issues when crossing temperature thresholds (you know, thermal expansion). So, by stationing an operator to monitor the pressure transmitter you prevent the excursion of unknown amounts of hydrocarbons and one hydrogen fire. Or yeah, shutdown half an entire site and cause millions of dollars in loss and risk lives because a pressure transmitter loop, that can be verified on 3 different gauges, decided to blow a barrier strip.
This is how it is done every day in real life.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:13 am to TheMidasTouch
To the uninitiated see the later half of page 7 and pages 8 and 9 for a great example of what Operators do.
2 baws telling each other they don’t know shite.
You can’t work a blue collar job in a plant unless you think everyone else don’t know what they’re talking about.
Not a knock on the baws that work hard in dangerous places to make the building blocks of the shite we all use every minute of every day. Just a law of nature.
2 baws telling each other they don’t know shite.
You can’t work a blue collar job in a plant unless you think everyone else don’t know what they’re talking about.
Not a knock on the baws that work hard in dangerous places to make the building blocks of the shite we all use every minute of every day. Just a law of nature.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:26 am to lsualum01
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Diversity and inclusion have pretty much taken the place of nepotism is a thing of the past
LOL, Diversity and Nepotism is the ONLY THING!
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:28 am to fightin tigers
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Write a defeat protocol and have someone monitor the local gauge in the field at all times and report in at an interval that is deemed safe. It keeps a boiler from tripping and keeps 4 process units from coming down. On those process units are several exchangers that are know leak issues when crossing temperature thresholds (you know, thermal expansion). So, by stationing an operator to monitor the pressure transmitter you prevent the excursion of unknown amounts of hydrocarbons and one hydrogen fire. Or yeah, shutdown half an entire site and cause millions of dollars in loss and risk lives because a pressure transmitter loop, that can be verified on 3 different gauges, decided to blow a barrier strip.
Just over the pay grade of a monkey.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:42 am to heatom2
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If I work more than four im just laid for the time Im there.
This job sounds better and better!
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:46 am to mikelbr
When my plant hired last it was 2 positions. We had 7500 applicants in 10 days. To be such a shitty or meaningless job everyone seems to want in.
As far as pay I worked 480 hours of ot this year and made 134k on top of that I get 10 percent in 401k and 8 percent in pension. 20k worth of health insurance paid by the company. All of that working 6 months out of the year with 7 days off in a row a month.
I may be a dumb ole operator but on the gulf coast you will be hard pressed to make more money than operators do.
As far as pay I worked 480 hours of ot this year and made 134k on top of that I get 10 percent in 401k and 8 percent in pension. 20k worth of health insurance paid by the company. All of that working 6 months out of the year with 7 days off in a row a month.
I may be a dumb ole operator but on the gulf coast you will be hard pressed to make more money than operators do.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:51 am to GATORGAR247
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I worked 480 hours of ot this year
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All of that working 6 months out of the year
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This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:54 am to MusclesofBrussels
That's an extra 40 days .
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:09 am to GATORGAR247
Most people can’t comprehend that you can work more hours and still have more time off than most people. I work 14 days every 28 day cycle. The normal 5 8s guy works 20. 500 hours ot, which I’ve only done once in 13 years, averages out to 4 days a month. I’d still be off 2 full days more than the 5 8s guy.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:28 am to jmh5724
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Most people can’t comprehend that you can work more hours and still have more time off than most people.
This. I only work 14 days a month, plus I have 8 weeks of vacation. Hell I get bored a lot of times and want to go in on my off days. I try to go in and work one off day a week and still have more time off than I know what to do with.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:47 am to pioneerbasketball
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Someone that wasn't smart enough to get in college.
*into college
At which plant are you an operator?
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:49 am to TheMidasTouch
Mostly just make jambalaya and treat contractors terribly
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:41 am to TigeRoots
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What does this mean
It means management wants to know who they are. Kinda like audit. Not a bad thing. Just they will want to make sure it's legit and not fricking the system. For example payroll management may ask to see all hourly over 125k and then compare hours paid to hours in the gate and pay codes.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:48 am to upgrayedd
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A fat guy that cooks in an explosion proof building.
It always smells good every time I go to the operator's shack. Seems like they are always frying fish.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:51 am to phutureisyic
I fried flounder last week and fed our maintenance guys. I cooked for 25 people. I'm not an a-hole to the contractors but you better know what you are working on before you ask me for a permit. I issue permits in the field after you walk me through the job.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:22 am to Asharad
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Oh really? Quote: "As alarms rang and warning lights flashed, the operators did not realize that the plant was experiencing a loss-of-coolant accident. They took a series of actions that made conditions worse."
Like I said you are not even close to understanding the TMI accident.
Routine maintenance procedures to clean condensate filters caused water to be forced past a check valve that unknown to anyone was stuck open. This caused water to contaminate pneumatic control lines. Faulty data created by water in the instrumentation lines caused the feedwater pumps, condensate booster pumps, and condensate pumps to turn off and cause a turbine trip.
You want to explain how the engineering controls are going to work correctly with water in the control instrument lines?
A flaw in the design of the pilot relief valve solenoid position feedback caused a incorrect valve position indication to be displayed to the operators. this lead to confusion as to the state of the reactor cooling system, and the appropriate action that should have been taken.
You can also explain how the engineering controls would have saved the reactor when they would be relying on the same erroneous valve position feedback as the operators.
The next shift of operators were able to correctly assess the problem from temperature and pressure readings and take corrective action, but severe damage had already occurred.
Left to automated controls making decisions based on erroneous data the situation would have likely been much worse.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:31 am to GATORGAR247
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flounder last week and fed our maintenance guys
Our operators here need to do that.
Operator gigs are pretty sweet, but so is my maintenance job. I like turning wrenches and the money I get paid compared to the work I do is ridiculous. I feel like I'm stealing every week when that check hits the bank.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:29 pm to onelochevy
Our embedded contractors make almost as much as we do. I'm friends with several that have worked at the plant longer than I have. Only difference is they get to work 4 10s and I'm working shift. We get some strait up dumb asses when turnarounds hit though. We try to treat our guys like they wear the same color nomex.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:39 pm to GATORGAR247
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We try to treat our guys like they wear the same color nomex.
Remember: it's all the same color when it's on fire.
I actually overheard that once walking by a manager trying to convince the direct hires and the contractors to stop griping at each other and that they were playing for the same team.
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