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re: What does Woodstock 99 say about late-Gen X/early-millennial?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:59 pm to xxTIMMYxx
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:59 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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I’m an older millennial and I have nothing in common with the younger millennials.
I guess I’m in the middle of the millennial generation. Born in 93
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:59 pm to armsdealer
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Boomers are still running this country and running it right into the ground. Anyone that doesn't see this is either a boomer or in denial.
The same generation that ruined this country are still running it because they’ve been in THAT long
Biden, Pelosi, and McConnell aren’t boomers - they took over from where the lost generation (lbj and Nixon) left off
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:00 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Being a misanthropic dick is no way to go through life, son.
I’m generally not a dick. Usually pretty affable.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:01 pm to grizzlylongcut
I went right out of high school. I brought $300 with me and spent $250 on a t-shirt and drugs 30 minutes after walking through the gates. I hadn’t anticipated the price gouging for food, so I basically starved for 3 days. It was ridiculously hot on that pavement, even for a Southern girl. I really didn’t sleep at all and left the moment the rioting started. Any girl with any sense knew to GTFO of that situation.
I had a great time. The documentary only focused on the bad. But I did learn that stomach bug I developed a couple of days after the festival was likely caused by all of the shite water around the toilets. Speaking of those porto-potties, I finally broke down and forced myself to use one on day 2. I knew it would be disgusting, but I wasn’t prepared to see poetry scrawled in shite on the inside of the door.
Still had a blast.
I had a great time. The documentary only focused on the bad. But I did learn that stomach bug I developed a couple of days after the festival was likely caused by all of the shite water around the toilets. Speaking of those porto-potties, I finally broke down and forced myself to use one on day 2. I knew it would be disgusting, but I wasn’t prepared to see poetry scrawled in shite on the inside of the door.
Still had a blast.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:01 pm to grizzlylongcut
That shite was fricking wild. But it says more about corporate America than it says about a generation. They sold 250k tickets at $150 a piece that's $37,500,000.00.
Then they searched everyone who went in and took away any water, food, etc they had and then was charging them $4 for bottles of water. This was in 1999 and there was a dude there that said he paid what for water and a salad? Like $9?
They got the cheapest "security guards" they could find, which was just some random people who was selling their shirts to people, one dude said he got $400 for his shirt because he had another one in his bag, which was more than they were being paid. They had no training. I'd love to see the financial records for it. Between ticket sales, the vendors who I am sure paid a decent amount to have a booth there and all the corporate sponsors they had, there is no way they lost money. Do you think it cost more than $37.5M to pay each band/performer that was booked?
I know they had to rent the old military base (well I assume, maybe the mayor let them use it for free since it was bringing in so many people into the town).
But I watched the special on netflix and through the first episode I thought "this is a perfect example of corporate greed. Find something to sell people on, build it as cheap as possible and anything that happens to people because of it is collateral damage".
Then they searched everyone who went in and took away any water, food, etc they had and then was charging them $4 for bottles of water. This was in 1999 and there was a dude there that said he paid what for water and a salad? Like $9?
They got the cheapest "security guards" they could find, which was just some random people who was selling their shirts to people, one dude said he got $400 for his shirt because he had another one in his bag, which was more than they were being paid. They had no training. I'd love to see the financial records for it. Between ticket sales, the vendors who I am sure paid a decent amount to have a booth there and all the corporate sponsors they had, there is no way they lost money. Do you think it cost more than $37.5M to pay each band/performer that was booked?
I know they had to rent the old military base (well I assume, maybe the mayor let them use it for free since it was bringing in so many people into the town).
But I watched the special on netflix and through the first episode I thought "this is a perfect example of corporate greed. Find something to sell people on, build it as cheap as possible and anything that happens to people because of it is collateral damage".
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:02 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I’m generally not a dick. Usually pretty affable.
By definition, misanthrope and dick go hand in hand. Sorry for being redundant.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:04 pm to grizzlylongcut
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After watching the 3 part doc, the biggest thing I came away with was that’s a culmination of what happens when a generation of nihilistic hippies raise kids.
I believe it showed a generation of people that had been brought up in such luxury, spoiled their entire lives, that they just do not give a frick about anything. I think it drove home Dostoyevsky’s point on utopia
Gen X is a really small generation - there are more 65 year olds in this country than 45 year olds. Birth rates were low, only children or siblings with ridiculous age gaps were common.
The 90's was also the culmination of the latchkey kid concept that had been growing through the 70's and 80's and the early Gen-X period. Single parenthood was steadily increasing and even if not single parents, families became increasingly dual income.
This is also right before the internet and cell phones started to permeate every bit of society and allow for virtual network of friends. Often times your friends were who ever was approximately your age and lived within a 3 block radius - and that's it.
Combine everything together: A lot of bored teenagers in the mid-90's looking for ways to entertain themselves, navigating life primarily through their peers and with very little parental involvement. Some of those peer groups took on destructive tendencies with very little chance of being caught.
"We're alive now, entertain us!" - Nirvana.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:04 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Biden, Pelosi, and McConnell aren’t boomers - they took over from where the lost generation (lbj and Nixon) left off
So the greatest generation got skipped over by the silent generation?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:07 pm to grizzlylongcut
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So the greatest generation got skipped over by the silent generation?
Well - I’d say that LBJ did his best to ruin this country and Nixon sealed the deal …
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:07 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Biden, Pelosi, and McConnell aren’t boomers - they took over from where the lost generation (lbj and Nixon) left off
They really need to put term limits or age limits. I understand being in that long they "know the ropes" and have experience, but that's too long. There needs to be maybe like a 20 year limit or some shite. Pelosi really looks like the work she had done on her face is melting. McConnell looks like he is about to drool on himself.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:12 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Well - I’d say that LBJ did his best to ruin this country and Nixon sealed the deal … And since neither of those idiots served in WW2 - I’m not labeling them ‘greatest generation’
I didn’t say they’re members of the greatest generation. They seem to be members of the lost generation and the people that you said took over for them (Biden, Pelosi, etc) are members of the silent generation. The greatest generation is between the lost and silent. It seemed like you were saying that the silent generation skipped over the greatest generation in the political sphere.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:12 pm to Prominentwon
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My 10 y/o boy likes Limp Bizkit. Especially Break Stuff.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:14 pm to grizzlylongcut
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What does Woodstock 99 say about late-Gen X/early-millennial?
They know how to party?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:15 pm to grizzlylongcut
And I was wrong about Nixon - he was in the navy
Anyway - my point was both sets of people were players in Washington for a long time
I’m not sure who of the greatest generation went in and out of politics while our country crumbled
Anyway - my point was both sets of people were players in Washington for a long time
I’m not sure who of the greatest generation went in and out of politics while our country crumbled
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:15 pm to OweO
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Then they searched everyone who went in and took away any water, food, etc they had and then was charging them $4 for bottles of water. This was in 1999 and there was a dude there that said he paid what for water and a salad? Like $9?
You were allowed to bring food and water in. I just didn’t because I was a dumbass. They did have free running water, which I drank the entire time. I’m fairly certain it would be illegal not to. The food prices were insane even by today’s standards. The cheapest thing you could find was a tiny side of french fries for $8. I remember walking and looking at food on the ground thinking that it would probably be okay for me to pick it up and eat it. That 4 day period was the hungriest I have ever been in my life. Still had a great time. Must have been the drugs.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:20 pm to xxTIMMYxx
quote:Sure there were way more than that. 300,000 people drinking, doing X, smoking weed for days on end with no sleep, walking around naked and topless and only 4 assaults were logged? BS!
When I heard about the 4 assaults, I was like…there
Then the most basic sanitation needs were completely neglected while port-o-lets over flowed beyond capacity within the 1st 24 hours to the point where the idiots were wallowing in pure shite and piss yelling come play in the “mud” with us. WTF?
It was a disgusting scene in which the promoters were totally unprepared to handle at any level. 300,000 people frying on a tarmac in sweltering heat and sun for 3 days of no showers or any form of hygiene.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I’m not sure who of the greatest generation went in and out of politics while our country crumbled
JFK comes to mind, Bob Dole, Bush 41, Jimmy Carter, those types.
JFK, Carter, and Bush 41 were the only presidents from that generation.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:22 pm to pelicanpride
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You were allowed to bring food and water in. I just didn’t because I was a dumbass. They did have free running water, which I drank the entire time. I’m fairly certain it would be illegal not to. The food prices were insane even by today’s standards. The cheapest thing you could find was a tiny side of french fries for $8. I remember walking and looking at food on the ground thinking that it would probably be okay for me to pick it up and eat it. That 4 day period was the hungriest I have ever been in my life. Still had a great time. Must have been the drugs.
Honestly, not a single thing you just mentioned sounds like a great time.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:23 pm to BRIllini07
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BRIllini07
Can’t say I disagree with a lot of what you said.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
Ehh if you were a millennial at Woodstock 99 you were 18 or younger.
People need to realize boomers were born after wwii and millennials after 1981
People need to realize boomers were born after wwii and millennials after 1981
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 9:31 pm
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