re: What does phi alpha mean to SAE fraternity members?

so.... you weren't an SAE.

Who cares? Frats are a waste of time.

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How fun was dry humping the lions in front of your house? At my school, we used to watch the SAE's make their pledges do this and laugh our asses off.

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Don't judge others.

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What does phi alpha mean to SAE fraternity members?

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Don't know, it's gay code.

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there's a TD thread from 2014 where some dude says he knew the "secret handshake"...which he didn't. And wouldn't as a pledge.

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Every good friend I have that was in a fraternity has shown me the handshake by now. The thing is, being in a fraternity certainly does have incredible benefits after college, mainly with networking and job connections. But once you're 10 years removed it doesn't really mean shite other than maybe a conversation starter at a cocktail party or something.

If your friends are still guarding those secrets 20 years later, they might be taking this a little too serious.

Brighter from Obscurity. You're welcome. Your friend sounds like he cant give up college days.

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So do you know Kimbell?

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Do you mean EQ Kimball the insurance man?

Step #1, find an older member of Alpha Phi Alpha (preferably over 45, 65+ is better))
Step #2, ply them with liquor
Step #3, ask them what it means

Alpha was started by the SAE houseboys and according to some, they "borrowed" the SAE ritual book when forming Alpha Phi Alpha.

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It all stems from the Greek. Alpha of course means beginning or from the beginning. Phi is a term that originally meant bestiality and more specifically goat fricking. So Phi Alpha means goat fricking from the beginning.

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Idiot it means “Start the goat fricking”. Which is said at the appropriate time at SAE circle jerks.

How could you get so close and blow it?