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Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:28 am to lsunurse
quote:they're the fricking worst I tell ya
breastfeeding nazis
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:35 am to Bama and Beer
Years ago when I worked in postpartum I would have brand new moms exhausted and in tears because they couldn't get baby to properly latch on. Mom is sobbing and baby screaming cause it's starving. I would gently suggest to the mom to give the baby a bottle for now so that she could get some rest and then try again later.
With some of these moms they would look at me like I just suggested giving their baby a bottle of cyanide. I'm all for promoting breastfeeding, but don't teach these mothers at the breastfeeding classes that formula is evil and giving it to baby means you have failed as a mom. Sooo many times the moms would say "but the breastfeeding class said not to give baby formula." I really hope they have softened that stance some.
With some of these moms they would look at me like I just suggested giving their baby a bottle of cyanide. I'm all for promoting breastfeeding, but don't teach these mothers at the breastfeeding classes that formula is evil and giving it to baby means you have failed as a mom. Sooo many times the moms would say "but the breastfeeding class said not to give baby formula." I really hope they have softened that stance some.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:36 am to cwil177
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Yes, a very underdeveloped one. The child relies on the mother for the first six months of life to supplement its immune system.
Underdeveloped in what sense? The child relies on the mother to supplement it? What is that even supposed to mean? Seriously..on a cellular level, and specifically which antigens and antibodies, what pathway into the baby's lymphatic system, etc.
This is a study about drinking water and breastfeeding that discusses the issues I brought up already:
LINK
A key factor here is that the relevant antibodies:
1. Must be present in the woman's body in significant amounts (which is to say the woman probably must be in recent contact with the relevant antigen)
2. Must be transferred to breastmilk in significant amounts
3. Must be able to enter the baby's immune system through the GI tract
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Not so sure about this but maybe you can provide some links to sway me.
The Colen study is probably the most recent and well-documented study showing that the long-term effects of breastfeeding (IQ included) tend to be overstated or just flat out myths.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:38 am to lsunurse
quote:we had to do this. My wife didn't want to go the bottle route so early but she wasn't producing enough milk. I had to sit with her alone and tell her straight forward that it's ok to do the bottle stuff. She's currently doing really well breastfeeding with only supplementing formula not even once a day
I would have brand new moms exhausted and in tears because they couldn't get baby to properly latch on. Mom is sobbing and baby screaming cause it's starving.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:40 am to LSU1NSEC
True story...
My EX GF thought breastfeeding was gross because "breasts are for sex. You wouldn't let your child suck your dick, why would I let it suck by nipples?"
My EX GF thought breastfeeding was gross because "breasts are for sex. You wouldn't let your child suck your dick, why would I let it suck by nipples?"
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:41 am to Golfer
Some small advantages I noticed with a couple of long term breastfed children.
No bottles at home. No bottle prep when leaving home (other than childcare or when my wife wasn't there). No 3am staggering around the kitchen, or running to the store.
Maybe it's just my children, but we never dealt with spit up/digestive problems vs some of my friends children. No need for formula changes.
Spendng zero dollars on formula was a plus.
No bottles at home. No bottle prep when leaving home (other than childcare or when my wife wasn't there). No 3am staggering around the kitchen, or running to the store.
Maybe it's just my children, but we never dealt with spit up/digestive problems vs some of my friends children. No need for formula changes.
Spendng zero dollars on formula was a plus.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:45 am to lsunurse
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Years ago when I worked in postpartum I would have brand new moms exhausted and in tears because they couldn't get baby to properly latch on
My first one would not latch on, and if she did, the milk did not come out fast enough.
For 5 months my wife pumped, froze, thawed and bottle fed the breast milk, it was an extremely rough experience. After 5 months she could not keep up due to school and work and dried up.
This time, we went straight formula for the newborn and it is SO much more convenient. We can take turns at night, wife doesnt have to lug around the portable pump with car charger, we know exactly how much she has taken, etc.
Although we had a slight twist a few weeks ago with reflux and stomach problems so now we are on Puramino at $42/can
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:46 am to Bama and Beer
That's good
I think more women should be educated that breastfeeding may not come easy. So they don't feel like failures as mothers if they have troubles. I do think lactation nurses have an important role though. I know I was always thankful for their help, cause if I had several moms to care for ...I may not have time to spend helping a mom breastfeed. Some just need to remember to not make a mother feel guilty if she decides to give formula instead(assuming she has already been educated in benefits of breastfeeding and still wants formula). It's her choice and nursing staff needs to respect it instead of trying to change her mind several times.
I think more women should be educated that breastfeeding may not come easy. So they don't feel like failures as mothers if they have troubles. I do think lactation nurses have an important role though. I know I was always thankful for their help, cause if I had several moms to care for ...I may not have time to spend helping a mom breastfeed. Some just need to remember to not make a mother feel guilty if she decides to give formula instead(assuming she has already been educated in benefits of breastfeeding and still wants formula). It's her choice and nursing staff needs to respect it instead of trying to change her mind several times.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:49 am to lsunurse
So the only reason you like them was to give you some relief?
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:49 am to LSU1NSEC
They're lifesavers and will save you a ton of sleep...and a ton of grief from your wife.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:51 am to MBclass83
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I hate to break the news to you guys, but breasts are there for a reason, not just as your playthings.
As long as being our playthings remains part of their job description, I don't care what else they're used for.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:56 am to SG_Geaux
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True story...
My EX GF thought breastfeeding was gross because "breasts are for sex. You wouldn't let your child suck your dick, why would I let it suck by nipples?"
She had so be hot, no way she could still be breathing being so incredibly stupid.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:57 am to Bama and Beer
Nah they have much more training in that area than regular nurses do. They can give more advice/support on the topic. And they go all over the hospital.....not just postpartum floor. They will visit moms in the NICU and even moms in the Peds floor. We will consult them on the Peds floor if a baby is admitted and mother is having issues breastfeeding.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:01 am to Ebrow21
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Maybe it's just my children, but we never dealt with spit up/digestive problems vs some of my friends children
Much of it was probably just your kids. Also your own diet (or your wife's, didn't check to see if you were mom or dad) can have an impact. Certain foods eaten by the mother have been documented to negatively affect the babies digestive reactions. But by and large, human breast milk is designed by nature to be easily digested by human babies.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 1:55 pm to lsunurse
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Nah they have much more training in that area than regular nurses do. They can give more advice/support on the topic.
Yeah. They have to take an international certification exam every 10 years.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 2:16 pm to cwil177
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Not so sure unscientific is the word you're looking for here. The studies have looked at genetics and found genes that are linked to IQ increases of several points in people who were breastfed. This is one of the things you can find out through a 23andMe kit.
If you are going to harp on semantics, you might want to check yourself first.
Because benefits associated with breastfeeding has nothing to do with genetics. It's not like you have latent smart gene potential that gets switched on because you were breast fed.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 2:27 pm to Huey Lewis
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3. Must be able to enter the baby's immune system through the GI t
Ehhhhhh
Not really.
The main antibodies transmitted by breast milk are IgA, which focus on the mucosa anyway.
The child already got their IgG antibodies by birth. Breastmilk helps protect the gut from infections as the natural flora develops to handle the job. Also, breastmilk gives lots of hormones and growth factors geared at supercharging the immune system for a little while.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 3:54 pm to gingerkittie
So they should go run and hide in the bathroom or cover themselves with a blanket so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities? You and all those like you are complete zeros.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 3:54 pm to gingerkittie
So they should go run and hide in the bathroom or cover themselves with a blanket so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities? You and all those like you are complete zeros.
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