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Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:19 am to N2cars
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That's pretty ironic considering that they can't say the word "prayer" because of all the butthurt by the non-religious
Or because of the First Amendment, but whatever.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:22 am to Spirit of Dunson
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scope the crowd for hotties with big cans
added a little...
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:25 am to rintintin
Meh, the whole thing is ridiculous (and I pray).
95 out of a 100 people aren't going to have a problem with any word that is used. The vocal, PC minority is gonna get things changed to suit them though. I understand the separation of Church and State. Ignoring the huge role that religious freedom played in the founding of this country is just plain ignoring legitimate facts.
They'll keep rewriting history until they get it like they want it.
95 out of a 100 people aren't going to have a problem with any word that is used. The vocal, PC minority is gonna get things changed to suit them though. I understand the separation of Church and State. Ignoring the huge role that religious freedom played in the founding of this country is just plain ignoring legitimate facts.
They'll keep rewriting history until they get it like they want it.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:28 am to Antonio Moss
Yes, because if I say the word "pray" you have to "pray". 
"Section 417, Row 33, Seat 14- that guy's not praying! Swarm, swarm, swarm!"
"Section 417, Row 33, Seat 14- that guy's not praying! Swarm, swarm, swarm!"
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:29 am to N2cars
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Yes, because if I say the word "pray" you have to "pray".
That's not exactly the law regarding the First Amendment. It doesn't stop at government forcing you to engage in religious activity.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:30 am to Antonio Moss
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Or because of the First Amendment, but whatever.
Figured it would be the lawyer who would get this backwards.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:30 am to Antonio Moss
2 threads debating religion on a friday during lent.... not surprised.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:31 am to theunknownknight
Did I bring enough Boubon??
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:31 am to theunknownknight
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Figured it would be the lawyer who would get this backwards.
You have the floor . . .
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:34 am to LSUTygerFan
This isn't really debating religion itself, it's debating the restriction on religion in its current context as opposed the commonsensical intent of the first amendment.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:38 am to LSUTygerFan
Not really debating religion (at least I'm not).
Just a general erosion of what this country was founded on.
A word here, a word there...it just keeps going.
Pretty soon, we're London.
Carry on.
Just a general erosion of what this country was founded on.
A word here, a word there...it just keeps going.
Pretty soon, we're London.
Carry on.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:39 am to theunknownknight
I focus on engineers vs operators, Nola vs BR vs Houston, or Thibodaux vs Houma
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:41 am to Antonio Moss
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You have the floor . . .
reductio ad absurdum
Property taxes.
Technically we truly own nothing - the government has the power to take almost anything away from citizens.
If they have that power - they truly own almost all private land.
If they own it - they deem it private at their whim. Which means, government powers determine what is private and what is public.
That in turn determines the "separation of church and state" logic whereby they can dictate religious practices.
So if the government can determine, arbitrarily and capriciously, the scope of the public domain - the government can control religious practice wherever it rears its ugly head.
First amendment my arse.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 8:43 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:42 am to N2cars
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Just a general erosion of what this country was founded on.
Republicanism, Objective Morality, and Individualism?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:45 am to theunknownknight
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Property taxes.
Technically we truly own nothing - the government has the power to take almost anything away from citizens.
I'll stop you there. Taxation does not equal ownership. You may have an argument, albeit absurd, via the Eminent Domain clause of the 5th Amendment but even that is off.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:46 am to Antonio Moss
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I'll stop you there. Taxation does not equal ownership.
Stop paying your taxes and see how that goes for you and your property.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:52 am to theunknownknight
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Stop paying your taxes and see how that goes for you and your property.
Stop paying your income tax see how that goes for your job . . .
Stop paying your ss tax and see how that goes for your retirement . . .
Your proposition is absurd. Congress and Local Legislative bodies can lay taxes (Article I, Section 8, Clause One.) The ability to lay taxes doesn't equate to ownership. Your argument is the fact that Legislative bodies can tax means that there is no private property in the country.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:56 am to Antonio Moss
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Your proposition is absurd.
Well I DID preface with reductio ad absurdum.
Related to the government, if it CAN have the power to do something - it one day WILL have that power.
Let's not pretend tax estate/lien sales don't exist.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 8:57 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:59 am to theunknownknight
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Well I DID preface with reductio ad absurdum.
Fair.
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Related to the government, if it CAN have the power to do something - it one day WILL have that power.
Let's not pretend tax estate/lien sales don't exist.
Sure, but again the taxing power is clearly confided in Congress and the power to initiate taxing bills resides with the House (obviously we aren't dealing with property on the federal level but I digress.) The House was constructed to be the most pliable and responsive body in government for this reason. So even taxation can only be created by the people most accountable to the citizenry.
ETA: We have derailed this thread.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 9:02 am
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