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re: What do plant operators do? And how much do they really make?

Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:07 pm to
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28% of manufacturing workers have a B.A or higher degree.


Manufacturing workers is a gigantic category that doesn’t apply to the industry being discussed in this thread.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:10 pm to
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You realize plant operator is a segment of manufacturing.

Like....neurosurgeon is part of the medical field.



100% of physicians are MDs
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:13 pm to
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There has been a marked decline in the share of the U.S. factory workforce with less than a high school education, from 14.1 percent in 2000 to 10.6 percent in 2012. In a difficult post-recession labor market, where employers appear unwilling to take chances on hiring lower-educated and lower-skilled workers, this percentage will almost certainly continue to decline.


When I’m on the board, this is similar to what we call a “trend.”
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:15 pm to
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When I’m on the board, this is similar to what we call a “trend.”


As it pertains to what im saying, plant workers have average to below average education and do not save at a higher rate than the rest of the population, that part is irrelevant. I agree with it though.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:16 pm to
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plant workers


We’re talking about operators.

You do know there’s a slew of other contractors that are “plant workers”, right?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:17 pm to
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You do know there’s a slew of other contractors that are “plant workers”, right?


Yep
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24785 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:20 pm to
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As it pertains to what im saying, plant workers have average to below average education and do not save at a higher rate than the rest of the population, that part is irrelevant.


No, you’re taking a statistic that doesn’t make your point at all (manufacturing isn’t plant workers in any way you’re trying to equivocate it to be) and trying to pretend that it does. You’re then extrapolating farther under a false premise and doubling down on your flawed logic.

Do you work in the petrochemical industry?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:20 pm to
Do you feel financial advisors have the same retirement saving statistics as other "educated" individuals?

Meaning, statistically they have the same number not saving for retirement as the rest of the "educated" force. Fine Arts student and Financial Advisor are being lumped in the same category here.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Do you feel financial advisors have the same retirement saving statistics as other "educated" individuals?


Don't have enough information to make an accurate assessment.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Do you work in the petrochemical industry?



I have a lot of clients in the petrochemical industry and I provide financial services to them.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:23 pm to
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I have a lot of clients in the petrochemical industry and I provide financial services to them


I weep for their returns.

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Don't have enough information to make an accurate assessment.



I would say that holds true for everything you have stated this far.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24785 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:24 pm to
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I have a lot of clients in the petrochemical industry and I provide financial services to them.


In other words, no. Exactly what I thought.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:24 pm to
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As it pertains to what im saying, plant workers have average to below average education


I've never seen anyone willingly set themselves up for ridicule as you've done here. It's like you're trying to be wrong every post
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74470 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:25 pm to
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I've never seen anyone willingly set themselves up for ridicule as you've done here. It's like you're trying to be wrong every post



He started off serious and then morphed it into a troll to try and save face.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30139 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:25 pm to
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In other words, no. Exactly what I thought.



I look at financial information of and work directly with employees in the industry so if that's your definition of no, then I guess not.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:27 pm to
I take samples, do some pump maintenance, turn valves, use a computer to turn on pumps, trouble shoot problems, check pHs and the probes, check flows and their meters, load a truck here and there.

I have a college education and left my college degree field for this position.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30139 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:28 pm to
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I've never seen anyone willingly set themselves up for ridicule as you've done here. It's like you're trying to be wrong every post



Does the total population of workers in a plant have at minimum a college degree at the same rate or higher than the overall working population, yes or no?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74470 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:29 pm to
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Does the total population of workers in a plant have at minimum a college degree at the same rate or higher than the overall working population, yes or no?




I would say higher. A lot higher.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24785 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:32 pm to
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I look at financial information of and work directly with employees in the industry so if that's your definition of no, then I guess not


That is my definition of no. You deal with old operators as a retirement advisor (assumption, but that seems like what we’re doing). Somewhere along the way you developed a dislike for some of the clients you’ve had, and they harken from an era where you could walk into these jobs with less rigor than is required today. You apply a broad metric the manufacturing sector as a whole to a narrow part of the sector and keep arguing it like you have a clue, and you don’t.
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