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re: What can you tell me about Six Sigma Certification?

Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:29 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:29 am to
6 sigma, 508 compliance and Part 11 are all major pains in the arse to implement.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:30 am to
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That's who I work for.




You do know CAT is looked to from other companies as an example of how Lean/Six Sigma can drastically improve a process. I've toured several of CAT's facilities. Lean/Six Sigma is heavily engrained in their processes.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:30 am to
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This was the hot new thing at my company about 8 or 9 years ago. It was going to revolutionize everything we did. They even put together a team of "black belts". Far as I could tell they paid them each an exorbitant amount of money to just sit in a room thinking shite up. Fast forward to today and I can't remember the last time I even heard the words "six sigma" spoken by anyone here.


Winner winner chicken dinner.



I work for one of the largest companies in the world and we have saved millions upon millions just in our department by examining and reimagining processes. Stuff like software development and deployment all the way to new-employee onboarding.

It really can help in any area.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94693 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:31 am to
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work for one of the largest companies in the world
you dont say
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:32 am to
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work for one of the largest companies in the world and we have saved millions upon millions just in our department by examining and reimagining processes.


Same here. I work for one of the nations largest insurance companies. My last project saved the company over 7 million annually. That was just one process. Too bad I don't get to see any of that.

I have a friend that works in process improvement at Dell and they get a percentage of the ROI
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14536 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:33 am to
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If you can't even be efficient enough to google it on your own then you don't qualify.
yep, there are only about 150 examples on the first page.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:33 am to
I will say the biggest flaw in it is that people think EVERY process needs improvement. That’s just not true.

Developing a solid current state mapping is crucial and takes time. After people do that work, they often don’t want to admit the process isn’t in need of dramatic change and they try to force changes.

There is insane amounts of data to support the effectiveness of both LEAN and Six Sigma (look at Toyota), but its all about picking the right projects.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19252 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:34 am to
1) it eliminates process waste and improved efficiency. It is a business process (I have a black belt in it)
2) any field can use it. It strongly used in the manufacturing industry
3) Depends. Most of our guys at least have a green belt. We expect our people to have some training
4) it is common sense based. I think people make too big a deal of Kaisens and all that stuff. The tools are good picture stuff to use for business
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:34 am to
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work for one of the largest companies in the world
you dont say



CAD you know damn well where I work, so shut it

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:35 am to
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My last project saved the company over 7 million annually. That was just one process. Too bad I don't get to see any of that.


Yeah, in total, I think I produced well over 20 million annually in savings (me and my 2nd in command on projects).

And I didn't see 1 penny
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:35 am to
its not hard, they push the frick out of it in the OMIS classes at SLU. If a supply chain major can manage it then it can't be that hard. Every bit that has been covered in classes seems to be mostly common sense and just understanding simple math equations.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74628 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:35 am to
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You do know CAT is looked to from other companies as an example of how Lean/Six Sigma can drastically improve a process. I've toured several of CAT's facilities. Lean/Six Sigma is heavily engrained in their processes.


I'm fully aware. I've been with them for over 20 years. And like I said, starting about 8 or so years ago "Six Sigma" was taking on an almost cult-like status here. But now.... not so much. It's like it was a fad that was extremely popular for a while then just went away.


ETA
I think we've still got a Six Sigma team. Maybe. It's just I've not seen or heard anything about them in a long time.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:36 am to
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I will say the biggest flaw in it is that people think EVERY process needs improvement. That’s just not true. Developing a solid current state mapping is crucial and takes time. After people do that work, they often don’t want to admit the process isn’t in need of dramatic change and they try to force changes. There is insane amounts of data to support the effectiveness of both LEAN and Six Sigma (look at Toyota), but its all about picking the right projects.


Well said.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:37 am to
Yeah, this was around 2011-12 or so. I had zero interest in going up there for 6 months
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74628 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:41 am to
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Yeah, this was around 2011-12 or so. I had zero interest in going up there for 6 months


Going to Peoria is a loser anytime of the year. but I will say the factory tours can be cool and of course there's always Big Al's. And it's cool when they take us to Alexander's Steak House.

The place to go though is Cat's proving grounds out in Tinaja Hills, Arizona. It's about an hour's bus ride out into the desert south of Tucson. It's always an awesome trip.
Posted by Austin Cajun
Austin, Tejas
Member since Aug 2013
1884 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:42 am to
Six Sigma certification is the most boring, monotonous, useless, crock of shite I've ever had to endure in my life.

However, it's great to have on your resume. Major corporations love it.

For me, all it did was create more documentation for the shite I was already doing. Something as simple as keeping my work area cleaned also required a power point presentation to explain to everyone the step by step process on how to organize bullshite and read labels.
Constant projects for process improvement on top of all the rest of the work we had to do, but no overtime allowed to get the extra work done.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:45 am to
Blackbelt in email credentials, sure

On a vest?

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:52 am to
I don't know anything about the courses or its implementation, but I do know the name has to do with standard deviation for the normal curve.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22408 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:58 am to
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For me, all it did was create more documentation for the shite I was already doing.


About 25 years ago the president of the company I was working for got gungho about TQM. Sent us (the VPs) to an intensive seminar and had local presentations for middle management. After that everything we did had to have been the result of TQM. It was a pain in the arse. Eventually the pres lost interest and we got back to doing our jobs.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62935 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:06 am to
Good info, guys. Thanks. Does it matter where you get your certification from? I am looking at a "Lean Six Sigma Career Advancement Bundle" on Living Social right now. It includes Cerified Lean Six Sigma Greenbelt, Lean Management, and Minitab Training.

Says IIASC-accredited. Are they universally recognized?

Also, says $2,300 worth of courses, certs, exams, software, etc...for only $79.99. Does that sound right.
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