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re: West Memphis 3
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:53 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:53 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Hobbs's own family thinks he did it so I'll go with him.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:55 pm to Huey Lewis
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West Memphis 3 by Huey Lewis
They were probably guilty but maybe not.
They were only cleared by DNA evidence, 2/3 had solid alibis, and most of the victims families think they were innocent including Byars, who originally wanted to crucify them
So basically you're a fricking moron, unfamiliar with the facts of the case, or both
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:56 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Please search the history of TD on this topic. It's been brought up numourous times. Check it out.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:03 pm to AlbertMeansWell
This guy has been "dying from a brain tumor" for 20 years now....


Posted on 10/31/15 at 2:37 pm to Charlie Arglist
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This guy has been "dying from a brain tumor" for 20 years now....
That's one screwed up guy. He certainly fits the bill and it wouldn't shock me if he had some serious drug problems at the time.
I think Hobbs may have done it, but we also have virtually no information on this Mr. Bojangeles character. A man covered in mud and blood was seen at a Mr. Bojangles restaurant near where the boys would be found hours later. That restaurant was along highway 77 west of the crime scene. Probably less than a mile in total distance.
I think the Echols kid was playing into the hysteria thinking that he'd never get convicted since he didn't actually do it. Clearly that wasn't the case. His defense team clearly wasn't up to the challenge.
I heard one theory that the murdered boys saw Hobbs doing something he shouldn't be doing behind the truck wash facility, and he and an accomplice killed them there. I suppose that's possible.
West Memphis is a really dumpy place. It's home to a lot of distribution centers, rail yards, truck stops, and businesses catering to trucks and travelers. A lot of products and raw materials shipped to and from the eastern US go through that area either by rail or truck even today. There were a lot of transients around then and probably now. The location the bodies were found was right next to a truck stop and truck wash....both of which have since been torn down. There was casino/race track across I-40 from the area. A lot of potential suspects could be running through town just for a day or two.
The bodies were submerged in a drainage canal, and a high flow of water had pretty much washed the whole crime scene up. It was a difficult case to investigate and the West Memphis authorities were horribly ill-equipped to even begin to collect evidence properly. It was near what was a working class neighborhood at the time and a lot of parents were demanding action. They were under a lot of pressure to make an arrest and choose the weirdest group of kids they found.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 3:08 pm to member12
That entire first trial was a complete fudger.
The prosecution was weak. I do not think the defense was as weak, but they were having the much tougher time.
The sheriff/chief was under too much pressure and instead of doing the right thing, he made the stupid "an eleven" statement.
One of the strongest witnesses the prosecution had was a mail order PHD on cults. And the judge argued that he was legit when the defense attempted to dismiss.
Many witnesses were jail-house snitches.
Jason Baldwin was the one I always felt sorry for. Echols was his idol and you could tell it, but he did not play to the camera the way Echols did. Misskelley was just stupid...the cops picked on him to bring the other 2 down. NO telling what they told that borderline retard to get him to say what he said. As I noted above, the police chief was weak and clueless, but knew enough on how to outsmart a moron to make him seem like a knight in shining armor.
The prosecution was weak. I do not think the defense was as weak, but they were having the much tougher time.
The sheriff/chief was under too much pressure and instead of doing the right thing, he made the stupid "an eleven" statement.
One of the strongest witnesses the prosecution had was a mail order PHD on cults. And the judge argued that he was legit when the defense attempted to dismiss.
Many witnesses were jail-house snitches.
Jason Baldwin was the one I always felt sorry for. Echols was his idol and you could tell it, but he did not play to the camera the way Echols did. Misskelley was just stupid...the cops picked on him to bring the other 2 down. NO telling what they told that borderline retard to get him to say what he said. As I noted above, the police chief was weak and clueless, but knew enough on how to outsmart a moron to make him seem like a knight in shining armor.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 3:10 pm to member12
Also the Justice system is completely the most messed up thing in the world. Those boys would still be in prison, but along come filmmakers and Johnny Depp and Pearl Jam and their money and ability to show the negative sides of the "good/lawful" and all of a sudden, we have an Alford Plea.
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 3:18 pm to PiscesTiger
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One of the strongest witnesses the prosecution had was a mail order PHD on cults
That guy was an absolute quack with a PHD from a school that lost accreditation.
Witness for hire....and that was a huge part of their case.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 4:22 pm to PiscesTiger
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And the judge argued that he was legit when the defense attempted to dismiss.
Judge David Burnett misbehaved in that case and should not have been allowed to preside over another trial. Hi bias and favor of getting those boys convicted was pretty evident.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:51 pm to jdd48
Have a buddy from WM (within a year of Echols in school) - swears Echols was involved. Felt society was better off with him in jail.
Let the bitching begin
Let the bitching begin
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:13 pm to Stateguy
I don't think they did it, but don't know enough
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:18 pm to Stateguy
I've read
this type of thought..
idk.. i guess i could see a young teen just messing around, but i can't imagine ever wanting to take credit for such a horrible thing.
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Damien Echols threw off the whole investigation by kidding around saying he did the murder for shock value around his friends. He didnt think that you can convict someone without evidence so he just went along with the justice system, and he wrongfully was detained for 18 years
this type of thought..
idk.. i guess i could see a young teen just messing around, but i can't imagine ever wanting to take credit for such a horrible thing.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:16 pm to Stateguy
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West Memphis 3 by Stateguy
Have a buddy from WM (within a year of Echols in school) - swears Echols was involved. Felt society was better off with him in jail.
Let the bitching begin
Wow. Compelling argument, Darrow
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:21 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Wow. I just read up on this.
Unbelievable that these people only wanted a conviction and didn't care about justice.
Unbelievable that these people only wanted a conviction and didn't care about justice.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:56 pm to AlbertMeansWell
100% think Hobbs was involved. Too much evidence there to ignore but without the state opening the case it'll never be solved. They won't admit fault.
One of the most interesting cases ever not involving a celebrity.
One of the most interesting cases ever not involving a celebrity.
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