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re: "We Wont Get No Satisfaction Until We Take Down Andrew Jackson" - FQ Protests NOW
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:24 am to TJG210
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:24 am to TJG210
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Why should businesses be extorted into paying over market value for labor?
if you can not pay your employees a living wage (whatever that might be for your area) you should not be running a business
just my two pennies
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:29 am to tigerpimpbot
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So the same people that want to take down the statue of a U.S. President have erected a memorial to Mike Brown in Ferguson. Lulz
That is the perfect microcosm of current year liberalism. Destroy beautiful monuments to great men of history to make way for awkward memorials to common street thugs. These people are sick.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:30 am to rocket31
Not every job is intended to fully support a person's expenses.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:35 am to GeauxTigerTM
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People still don't care about statues in NOLA? At what point can we legitimately say, "Enough" with this movement?
When you can make valid points as to why something should be venerated. Why should a President that signed something like the Indian Removal Act be held with honor?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:37 am to jimbeam
yes, i know - ill be more clear
if you can't afford to be in business while paying a living wage, you can't afford to be in business, else your employees' low living standards are subsidizing your business.
otherwise, we (the taxpayers) are subsidizing your wages - which is bulshit
if you can't afford to be in business while paying a living wage, you can't afford to be in business, else your employees' low living standards are subsidizing your business.
otherwise, we (the taxpayers) are subsidizing your wages - which is bulshit
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:37 am to CaptainBrannigan
You can find something that will upset someone for everyone, save Jesus and Kige.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:42 am to chalmetteowl
All you're going to do with a minimum wage hike to $15/hour is rapidly accelerate the pace at which human jobs are lost to technology and automation. More motivation for companies to invest to automated kiosks to take your food order and payment. Self checkout registers will replace cashiers at an even faster rate and expand into stores that don't have them already. Those are jobs that will be gone forever.
Then you'll see price increases on nearly everything you buy because of businesses having to offset their increased labor cost with higher prices. Wage hikes won't just stop with the people who were making minimum wage. Anyone who was making $15-20/hour before is going to want a raise because they actually had a skill and work value that made them valuable enough to make $15 when minimum wage was $7.25. So it won't just be your fast food and groceries getting more expensive....everything will.
All those labor cost increases will put brick and mortar stores at an even bigger disadvantage to online shopping since internet retailers don't require nearly the same staff level as a brick and mortar store does. So that'll lead to job loss as local stores cut jobs or close down completely because they can no longer compete with places like Amazon because an artificial minimum wage hike put the brick and mortar stores at an even bigger disadvantage than they were already when it came to overhead costs for a physical store vs an online one.
Hope you enjoy 15% unemployment in your liberal utopia
Then you'll see price increases on nearly everything you buy because of businesses having to offset their increased labor cost with higher prices. Wage hikes won't just stop with the people who were making minimum wage. Anyone who was making $15-20/hour before is going to want a raise because they actually had a skill and work value that made them valuable enough to make $15 when minimum wage was $7.25. So it won't just be your fast food and groceries getting more expensive....everything will.
All those labor cost increases will put brick and mortar stores at an even bigger disadvantage to online shopping since internet retailers don't require nearly the same staff level as a brick and mortar store does. So that'll lead to job loss as local stores cut jobs or close down completely because they can no longer compete with places like Amazon because an artificial minimum wage hike put the brick and mortar stores at an even bigger disadvantage than they were already when it came to overhead costs for a physical store vs an online one.
Hope you enjoy 15% unemployment in your liberal utopia
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:44 am to Tiger Prawn
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is rapidly accelerate the pace at which human jobs are lost to technology and automation
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:46 am to Tiger Prawn
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brick and mortar stores at an even bigger disadvantage to online shopping since internet retailers don't require nearly the same staff level as a brick and mortar store does
why are you against capitalism? shameful
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:50 am to rocket31
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if you can not pay your employees a living wage (whatever that might be for your area) you should not be running a business
just my two pennies
Are you willing to pay the prices that allow jobs to pay a so called "living wage"? That's what is going to happen. Prices go up and then we are back to complaining about jobs not paying a living wage. Notice the cycle there?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:51 am to rocket31
rocket you do realize in a zero sum game increasing the minimum wage to 15 dollars just sets the floor (0) to 15 dollars right?
You've created inflation over night for people who do not have any skills and do not deserve a ~80% increase in payment.
The fact that you make an argument that a company who cannot pay its employees 15 an hour should not be in business, is disingenuous coming from you. Do you not invest in the stock market frequently (I know you do)?
Do you not invest in stocks that pay out quarterly dividends (Again I know you do)?
Do every single one of the companies you have holdings in pay their employees this wage you speak of?
If not, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and divest from these so called shite companies you like to rag on.
At the end of the day, the company (at least a publicly traded one) only has to speak to it's stakeholders. The easiest way to make your bottom line look rosy and deliver those dividends is to drop your capex.
But you know this already. Which is why it's shocking of all people you are clamoring to this bullshite and UBI so much.
You've created inflation over night for people who do not have any skills and do not deserve a ~80% increase in payment.
The fact that you make an argument that a company who cannot pay its employees 15 an hour should not be in business, is disingenuous coming from you. Do you not invest in the stock market frequently (I know you do)?
Do you not invest in stocks that pay out quarterly dividends (Again I know you do)?
Do every single one of the companies you have holdings in pay their employees this wage you speak of?
If not, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and divest from these so called shite companies you like to rag on.
At the end of the day, the company (at least a publicly traded one) only has to speak to it's stakeholders. The easiest way to make your bottom line look rosy and deliver those dividends is to drop your capex.
But you know this already. Which is why it's shocking of all people you are clamoring to this bullshite and UBI so much.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:52 am to CaptainBrannigan
quote:He saved the city of New Orleans from an overwhelming British force, resulting in the withdrawal of the British from LA, and maintained US ownership of the vital port of New Orleans at the mouth of the Mississippi during the War of 1812.
Why should a President that signed something like the Indian Removal Act be held with honor?
He commanded a force of almost 5000 men and defeated a force 3 times their size.
If you progressives actually knew history, you wouldn't even have asked that question.
Aside from being president, Andrew Jackson was vital to the existence of New Orleans.
Damn, you progressives are willfully ignorant.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:52 am to rocket31
I am for capitalism. Capitalism lets the market determine what an employee is worth to a company....not have the government mandate it
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:53 am to jmarto1
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Are you willing to pay the prices that allow jobs to pay a so called "living wage"?
in the usa, an increase in minimum wage has never resulted in 1:1 increase in prices, ever.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:54 am to rocket31
Paging Napoleon
Link of me calling this Jackson square debacle
So Napoleon, are you going to put your money where your mouth is? Or did you just say that because you never thought it would happen?
Link of me calling this Jackson square debacle
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No one cared about the monuments until Mitch decided to take them done. Now for nearly two years people hav paid more attention to this issue than the failing NOPD
- Napoleon
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BS. Since I was a kid I would always visit at least Jackson Square when I went. Even hung around Jackson Square during my days living in NOLA. Everytime friends ask me where to go when in NOLA, I will say Jackson Square, WWII museum etc. I think those parts of the city are better than the piss and throw up odored streets. So, I think people actually give a F about them. It is the complainers who just took interest because they were told to that now have a problem.
- Abadeebadaba
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what's Jackson square have to do with this? They try and take down AJ and I'll be one of those crazies out there trying to keep him up. That man saved this city from flying the Union Jack.
-Napoleon
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I was giving my opinion on what I think. Jacskon Square is already being thought about being taken down. Do yout thibk the people bitching about this care about Andrew Jackson? They could give three shits less, so get ready to become one of those crazies. Also, I used Jackson Square as my example because that is the place I cherish the most. I have visited the other statues, but Jackson is my favorite. This would have applied to any statue.
- Abadeebadaba
So Napoleon, are you going to put your money where your mouth is? Or did you just say that because you never thought it would happen?
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:54 am to CaptainBrannigan
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When you can make valid points as to why something should be venerated. Why should a President that signed something like the Indian Removal Act be held with honor?
well... since this is New Orleans...
and he was the General who led American forces in the Battle of New Orleans
I think it's pretty easy here
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:55 am to 50_Tiger
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increasing the minimum wage to 15 dollars
i do not believe we should have a federal minimum wage, and def not $15 across the board, that would be absurd
it should be based on the cost of living in your area
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:58 am to CaptainBrannigan
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When you can make valid points as to why something should be venerated. Why should a President that signed something like the Indian Removal Act be held with honor?
There is good and bad in every person. Why judge a man's place in history by only one facet?
It seems disingenuous to erase a man like Andrew Jackson from history because of the bad things in his past while at the same time exalt the memories of people like Che Guevara, Stanley Williams, Huey Newton, Michael Brown, and Alton Sterling.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:58 am to CaptainBrannigan
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When you can make valid points as to why something should be venerated. Why should a President that signed something like the Indian Removal Act be held with honor?
You cannot hold past peoples to the same standards/sentimentalities/moralities that we hold today. The fact that such is a thing is all the rage today is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:02 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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KKK has been asleep for decades. They will awaken that beast.
That is exactly what they want to have happen. That would play right into their hands. In their world that would give them the moral authority to claim "see I told you so." And it would be game over.
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