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re: Was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki necessary?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:49 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:49 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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It clearly states that only 3 of the 6 members of a war council were ready to accept unconditional surrender.
it was the emperor's decision to make, and he didn't want to be tried as a war criminal, which he wasn't
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:49 pm to celltech1981
There's a great Radiolab podcast, "Nukes," on who has the nuclear authority and how it has changed with each President. Truman wasn't in as much control as history has given him credit for.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:50 pm to slackster
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It's incredible that after 70 years people are more critical of the US than the Japanese leadership.
What the hell kind of an interesting thread would it be to critique the decision making of the Japaneses leadership? May as well start a thread asking if the Holocaust was bad.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Woah slick, you pulling the triple threat? Go get my popcorn! I want a first hand look at this roast
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
was the bombing of Pearl Harbor necessary?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:53 pm to Novae
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There's a great Radiolab podcast, "Nukes," on who has the nuclear authority and how it has changed with each President. Truman wasn't in as much control as history has given him credit for.
will def check this out
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:53 pm to Tigers0891
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was the bombing of Pearl Harbor necessary?
nope
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
My god you keep doubling and tripling down on your utter stupidity.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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quote: Because we did not accept a conditional surrender.
but we did, except we just called it unconditional surrender so people like you could argue it was different than what Japan had already offered even though by all accounts it wasn't.
Now you're just being stupid. It's been clearly and plainly laid out and you still refuse to accept it.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
So I’ll ignore your reference to the holocaust....cause I’m fairly certain Hitler didn’t warn the Jewish people....I’ll sit back and watch you get roasted for that....moreover you are discrediting your arguement a bit if you remove the Japanese Governments role in their own demise. They had the ability to avoid this, they had the ability to reasonably conclude some bad shite was going to happen during the boat ride to Hawaii
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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What the hell kind of an interesting thread would it be to critique the decision making of the Japaneses leadership? May as well start a thread asking if the Holocaust was bad.
I'm not referring to your thread only. You rarely see any criticism fall at the feet of Hirohito anywhere you read.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:55 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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My god you keep doubling and tripling down on your utter stupidity.
stupidity is the unwillingness to even consider anything other than what you've been told was the good thing to do.
You're doing that, not me.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:55 pm to slackster
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They simply didn't want to quit. Hell, the Japanese military attempted a coup d'état even after Hirohito agreed to surrender.
Until this thread, I didn’t realize there were people who thought Japan would have surrendered without an invasion/a bomb
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:55 pm to The Pirate King
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Until this thread, I didn’t realize there were people who thought Japan would have surrendered without an invasion/a bomb
Are you still pretending they wouldn't have?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
So a million men, at least was the better option? Do you know what the object of war is?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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but we did, except we just called it unconditional surrender so people like you could argue it was different than what Japan had already offered even though by all accounts it wasn't.
OK, here's your sign:
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:56 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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So a million men, at least was the better option?
Was never going to happen, that's the entire point. Did you even bother reading the OP?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:57 pm to CptRusty
Thanks, fits how I feel on here frequently 
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:57 pm to The Pirate King
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Until this thread, I didn’t realize there were people who thought Japan would have surrendered without an invasion/a bomb
Ya, well, I didn't think there were people who thought 9/11 was an inside job either.
The world is full of crazy.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 4:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Are you still pretending they wouldn't have?
We don't know. I read all your links and that's really the most optimistic conclusion you can draw - we'll never know.
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