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Was Carlos Marcello the most powerful man in la cosa Nostra?

Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:35 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:35 am
As the don of New Orleans; he had two special privileges that no other don in the country had.

1.) He didn't have to ask permission of the heads of the other families to do anything.

2.) The other families could not come into the state or conduct business in the south without Marcello's permission.

These don't sound like "special" privileges; but the more I think about it; these would have made this man extremely powerful.

Also, the state of Louisiana was very powerful in Washington DC in terms of political influence at this time.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74852 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:36 am to
He was a produce dealer.

You exaggerate.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Was Carlos Marcello the most powerful man in la cosa Nostra?

No
/thread
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7502 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:37 am to
I love these old nola mob threads
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
9760 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:38 am to
He'd have to be in the top tier, at least.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:39 am to
Joe Rogan ended his career and is still alive so no
Posted by AJN
Akers, LA
Member since Dec 2015
169 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Joe Rogan ended his career and is still alive so no


This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:53 am to
At the time he had Kennedy killed you could say he was the most powerful man in America.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105297 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:02 pm to
NB4 thread (and OP) get whacked.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

As the don of New Orleans; he had two special privileges that no other don in the country had. 1.) He didn't have to ask permission of the heads of the other families to do anything. 2.) The other families could not come into the state or conduct business in the south without Marcello's permission.


This is strongly misleading. Before Carlos took over, the old New Orleans organization (Matranga/Carolla) butted heads with Chicago, but Carlos negotiated a deal making New Orleans, essentially a branch of the Genovese family. At the end of the day, Chicago and Kansas City focused on their union deals, Midwestern vice and Las Vegas gambling (which Carlos also get a cut of, because of ties with Santo in Florida and for "services rendered"), New Orleans had more in common with New York as a port and more of the wave of late 19th century Italian/Sicilian immigration. The Chicago Outfit was practically born with prohibition - guys from the New York and Philly trying to branch out and so forth.

quote:

these would have made this man extremely powerful.


Because he was not involved in the day-to-day grittiness of NY, there was not much bad blood and he was often sought out to mediate disputes among those guys. His position was not seriously challenged during his lifetime, except by the authorities. To a certain degree the remoteness and his semi-autonomy made him a powerful mafia figure for decades.

He had it pretty good, as mob bosses go, but let's not pretend he didn't have to "answer" to anyone.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

NB4 thread (and OP) get whacked.



Why would talking about a dead man get this whacked? Figuratively speaking, of course.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44906 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:19 pm to
Ask the Kennedys
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Before Carlos took over, the old New Orleans organization (Matranga/Carolla) butted heads with Chicago,


They met the goons at the train station and broke their thumbs and put them back on the train to Chicago

quote:

but Carlos negotiated a deal making New Orleans, essentially a branch of the Genovese family.


The only deal he negotiated was that Costello needed a place to place his slot machines since they were were thrown out of NYC by LaGuardia. Marcello offered him a spot to place them at what is now Southport Hall in exchange for a cut of the revenue.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

As the don of New Orleans
ooohhh scary.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:10 pm to
Pretty sure you mean Carlos Mencia
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

At the time he had Kennedy killed you could say he was the most powerful man in America.


A very strong argument could be made for Tony Accardo of the Chicago Outfit.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:13 pm to
He was gay, not many know that.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

A very strong argument could be made for Tony Accardo of the Chicago Outfit.


It's still funny to me that his great-grandson is going to be the top pick in this year's NFL draft in...Chicago.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122855 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:22 pm to
Nope

It's always been the heads of the Gambino and Genovese families
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Joe Rogan ended his career and is still alive so no
Explain please. Not very familiar with the mob scene in N.O.
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