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re: Wal Mart is leading the charge on global warming

Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:40 am to
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1242 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:40 am to
Climate change is real, as it’s a natural process with the Earth.

The planet is currently in a warming cycle, after having experienced a cooling cycle(Ice Age) in the last period. Humans’ impact on this cycle is questionable at best. The worst case scenario would have been a world where developed countries had little interest in waste/energy losses, similar to the US prior to the 1970s. At this point, even with China and India currently giving a questionable level of shits about their output, the engineering and science of industrial processes and energy demands in most of the developed world are already becoming quite effective at dealing with excessive energy and mass waste. Even if human impact was troublesome on the climate, it’s very likely that in just 50 years the damage can be stopped and even reversed, just from technology advances.

If humanity continues on its current path, it is only a matter of time until the level of manipulation they can exert on the environment becomes large enough to encompass the entire planet, ie from chemical engineering on the industrial scale to geo engineering on the planetary scale. It would be from this that any hopes at setting up shop on other planets would come.. if we want to do any terraforming.

The media has completely blown this topic out of proportion. Awareness is good, but have faith in the scientists and engineers making the world a better, more efficient place.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 6:41 am
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 6:41 am to
Good for them.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69236 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:13 am to


Man dindu nuffin
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:20 am to
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Yet...there are questions.


The questions come from people who know nothing except what they saw on TV from a politician.

Either all of the climate scientists in the world who work for many different organizations and nations have banded together to trick us, or a politician is lying to keep his "donations" from fossil fuel. You decide.

Who's lying? - ALL the scientists OR a politician
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 8:23 am
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:26 am to
they are controlling the AC from the R-Kansas mother ship. The fatties are sweating while riding down the aisles!! Saving the Earth one day at a time
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20260 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 8:15 am to
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Yet...there are questions.


Not really. I took an Oceanography course from a world renowned scientist in college and the only questions are matters of consequence, not cause.

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you believe in the Bible. It is a fact that there is more evidence that humans are increasing global temperatures than there is for the existence of Jesus Christ, yet you question one and not the other. Why?
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 8:55 am to
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I took an Oceanography course from a world renowned scientist in college and the only questions are matters of consequence, not cause.


He have any research money connected to his research/opinion? If 100% no, then i'll ponder. If so, then well...not so much.

Lets all remember obama has a noble peace prize from his "oceans will rise" if he's not elected speech. So "world renowned anything in todays social media world doesnt mean as much of anything anymore.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20260 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 9:11 am to
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He have any research money connected to his research/opinion? If 100% no, then i'll ponder. If so, then well...not so much.


Her research has been published, scrutinized, and reviewed by other oceanographers, so that’s good enough for me. And that’s why science is so reliable, because literally anybody can test your hypothesis and prove you right or wrong.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 9:16 am to
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There’s a direct correlation between our carbon output and increasing temps. There’s literally no question about that.


No such thing as settled science. Science should always be tested and retested to learn more.

Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20260 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 9:32 am to
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No such thing as settled science.


Correct, but when 97% of scientists agree on anything, It astounds me that people with no credentials still think they know better, or those thousands of scientists are in on some global conspiracy.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20260 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 9:35 am to
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Science should always be tested and retested to learn more.


Facts are facts, thought, and can be settled. If co2 traps heat in the atmosphere, which it does, there’s really no point in continuing to ask the same question. Makes no sense.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4790 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 9:50 am to
The price of solar energy has dropped to the extent it makes business sense to do this. Companies like Walmart don't do things like this to help the planet, they do it to help shareholders. Their current executives will be long dead before the environment is fricked but if profits drop they lose their jobs. Which one do you think they're more concerned about?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117136 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:13 am to
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I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you believe in the Bible


Looks like you are a dead man. I do not subscribe to the literal truth of the Bible.

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the only questions are matters of consequence, not cause.


So...questions (and make sure to include degree of contribution by man [versus other contributors]).
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 10:14 am
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