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Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:17 pm to Slippy
This guy wrote this ridiculous article to get clicks
Congrats on getting him clicks
Congrats on getting him clicks
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:17 pm to Joshjrn
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I'm not sure if that's a particularly good argument regarding the overwhelming majority of this country
Everyone making their own hours would be a clusterfrick in most fields unless you are banging out widgets or lines of code and never need to speak to anyone.
No I will not attend your 8pm meeting 4 hours after I got off

Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:17 pm to Methuselah
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Really, it reads like a meh Jr. High or maybe freshman H.S. essay. Full of vague generalities and not even trying to tie evidence to claims.
I'm seeing more and more poorly written pieces as time goes on.
I agree. I read the article anticipating something of substance, whether I agreed with it or not, and found the equivalent of a mealy mouthed junior high book report. Plenty of argument against the draconian enforcement of "standard" working hours, but this ain't it.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:19 pm to BugAC
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I disagree. It's really up to each individual,
So then yes, you'd agree you shouldn't just tie someone's "perceived" work ethic to the time they are up and going.
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but there is a reason the stereotype for early risers exist.
Sure, but can the stereotype not be outdated if it was rooted from a time where that actually was more importance in getting up early?
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Personally speaking, if i get a bunch of things at work or at home complete before noon, i feel pretty good about the rest of the day. If i waited until 10 to start working, i would feel differently.
That's great. I wouldn't assume anything about your work ethic based on either scenario. If you get the work done, that is all that matters. How you personally want to work is up to you. Not sure why that is an issue?
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By that definition, speech is pretty "outdated" but we shouldn't do away with it because some people are introverts.
Bad attempt here.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:20 pm to fallguy_1978
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Everyone making their own hours would be a clusterfrick in most fields unless you are banging out widgets or lines of code and never need to speak to anyone.
No I will not attend your 8pm meeting 4 hours after I got off
*that meeting probably could have been an email*

There are absolutely some industries/jobs/etc that are best served by very specific set hours. But for the majority, allowing a bit of flexibility around the edges (i.e. shifting from 8-5 to 9-6) likely wouldn't be earth shattering.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:21 pm to Slippy
Yep, get more done while the sun’s out and easier to see
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:23 pm to Slippy
When I have to wake up at 4:30 am for work every morning, I hate everyone. Therefore I see this as equal opportunity.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:23 pm to Joshjrn
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There are absolutely some industries/jobs/etc that are best served by very specific set hours. But for the majority, allowing a bit of flexibility around the edges (i.e. shifting from 8-5 to 9-6) likely wouldn't be earth shattering.
Ours is slightly flexible but if you venture too early or late you are going to be expected to attend meetings and calls outside of your "normal" hours. Nobody is going to change that schedule to accommodate you, so you'll end up working more hours at times.
I start work at 7am and leave at 4pm 80% of the time. I'll have to be in meetings occasionally from 4:30-5pm which just means I had to work 9 hours that day. That's just the price I pay to get off at 4 most days.
You'd be given a hard no if you asked to start at 9-10am though.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:26 pm to Slippy
It's amazing that these authors think that human civilization started in 1800
...and have no idea that black slavery started, and is still alive and well, in Africa.
...and have no idea that black slavery started, and is still alive and well, in Africa.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:27 pm to fallguy_1978
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Ours is slightly flexible but if you venture too early or late you are going to be expected to attend meetings and calls outside of your "normal" hours. Nobody is going to change that schedule to accommodate you, so you'll end up working more hours at times. I start work at 7am and leave at 4pm 80% of the time. I'll have to be in meetings occasionally from 4:30-5pm which just means I had to work 9 hours that day.
I don’t know what you do for a living, so: were those emergency meetings, or were they simply scheduled by an inconsiderate prick? If not an emergency meeting, could they not be scheduled sometime within the six or so hours during the “uncontested” time block?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:27 pm to Joshjrn
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There are absolutely some industries/jobs/etc that are best served by very specific set hours. But for the majority, allowing a bit of flexibility around the edges (i.e. shifting from 8-5 to 9-6) likely wouldn't be earth shattering.
I didn't really mean for my point to divulge into a larger discussion on the feasibility of the standard work day, but this I agree with.
I just don't see someone as more productive just because they get up early. Especially the ones that are the up at 4:30 crowd then are in bed by 8pm. The idea that is a more productive person in today's society is just a silly notion.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:31 pm to Slippy
I wonder if cavemen slept in.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:32 pm to Slippy
John Chaney and his 5 am practices say horse shite
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:34 pm to CocomoLSU
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If everything is racist (and that seems to be where we're heading), then nothing is actually racist.
Progressives don't understand the difference between racial and racist
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:35 pm to Joshjrn
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I don’t know what you do for a living, so: were those emergency meetings, or were they simply scheduled by an inconsiderate prick? If not an emergency meeting, could they not be scheduled sometime within the six or so hours during the “uncontested” time block?
I have recurring meetings with vendors, sales people, internal staff etc. I think most try to accommodate the normal 8-5 local time schedule, and if you deviate from that you'll still be expected to attend.
Just looking at my calendar from this week, I had over 20 calls/meetings on my schedule. Mostly project related stuff. Half of my salary is paid to me to attend meetings or calls and the other half is to work

This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Progressives don't understand
fify
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:38 pm to fallguy_1978
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I have recurring meetings with vendors, sales people, internal staff etc. I think most try to accommodate the normal 8-5 local time schedule, and if you deviate from that you'll still be expected to attend. Just looking at my calendar from this week, I had over 20 calls/meetings on my schedule. Mostly project related stuff. Half of my salary is paid to me to attend meetings or calls and the other half is to work
Jesus, to reiterate: how many of those frickers could have been emails?

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