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re: Waffle House workers are the latest group to strike, requesting $25 per hour

Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:34 am to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:34 am to
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Trying to make living wage income out of it is going to destroy their customer base and lead to store closures.


OK. So the government should pick up the difference with food stamps and housing vouchers, right? You OK with that?


Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10582 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:35 am to
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What price should the government set at the maximum for restaurant labor?


the government shouldn't get involved at all.


Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24606 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:35 am to
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What price should the government set at the maximum for restaurant labor?


They shouldn't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295958 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:38 am to
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explain how I'm supposed to cook during that drive.


You don't. You pre-make it or and stop for a picnic like people used to do before microwavable food in truck stops and fast food on every corner...

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:39 am to
Bingo.

“Restaurant labor” ranges from McDonald’s fry cooks up to wait staff and cooks at high end places like Sullivan’s.


I bet good waiters at places like Sullivan’s who work good tables probably bring home more than my salary after tips. But that is a tip based job and not a salaried job, so it isn’t guaranteed. They have to hustle their asses off.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:39 am to
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the government shouldn't get involved at all.



Oh. How should labor prices be set then?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25881 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:41 am to
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You don't. You pre-make it or and stop for a picnic like people used to do before microwavable food in truck stops and fast food on every corner...


Diners existed then and the cook wasn’t a HS kid and made enough to live a decent life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295958 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:41 am to
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Oh. How should labor prices be set then?


The market.

Imagine being able to buy shite like people could in the 60s before the "great inflation" hit.

Central planning always fails. Artificially high labor means low income Americans are priced out of the market place and cheap foreign labor is used to replace them. Or automation.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 9:43 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:42 am to
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I’m saying that restaurants are built on a formula of costs in order to have a menu that people will buy.

X% wages of employees (cooks, waitresses, etc)
Y% for food costs
Z% for building costs (utilities, rent, taxes, etc)



I'm pretty sure all businesses are like that. When they're cost goes up, they gotta jack their prices up. What goes up in price when you get a raise?
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 9:44 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24606 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:42 am to
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Oh. How should labor prices be set then?



This has to be a troll job.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13283 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:42 am to
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Predict 40% fewer chain restraints in next 10 years.

Eating out will become a luxury like owning a home.

Funny how they think these efforts are making living more affordable.



I fully expect fast food and medium priced chains like Outback and Olive Garden to nearly disappear from the landscape in the US. They are overpriced, un-edible and the service is LOUSY. It won't happen because of higher wages it will happen because management has a shitty product that is over priced and they do everything they can to make the experience miserable for customers.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:43 am to
Love your model.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40253 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:43 am to
tOT: wage growth is flat, this economy sucks and frick joe biden

*employees agree and band together to demand wage growth*

tOT: frick THESE PEICES OF shite
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24606 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:44 am to
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Outback and Olive Garden to nearly disappear from the landscape in the US. They are overpriced, un-edible and the service is LOUSY.


No, they aren't. They are not the best, but their menu is serviceable.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:44 am to
Labor costs, but if you are getting a raise it typically means that you are good enough at your job that productivity is increasing.


Paying someone more because they are worth more is fine.

Paying someone more just because is a waste of resources.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295958 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:44 am to
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What goes up in price when you get a raise?


How labor intensive is the business?

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:45 am to
Love you are too fricking incompetent to understand basic economics.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13283 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:45 am to
Waffle House is on a severe decline anyway. Most of the interstate exits that had 2-4 now have one only. Many aren't open 24 hours and some are still take out only. They have not, for the most part, been overly profitable for sometime but COVID did them in. They were always way overpriced but they are ridiculously so now, the service has always been questionable but it is horrendous now and the food quality, again, always barely acceptable, is no longer acceptable at all.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10582 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:45 am to
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Oh. How should labor prices be set then?


the same way basically every price the government doesn't touch gets set.

by the market.


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