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re: Waffle House workers are the latest group to strike, requesting $25 per hour

Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296159 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:17 pm to
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The selective rage is funny.


Far better than using failed govt programs for reasons to have more.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:21 pm to
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Far better than using failed govt programs for reasons to have more.


Agreed.

For the more enlightened, I was hoping to showcase practicalities that as a society we have determined to be essential.

Back in the old days, you needed a fire plaque in order for a fire to be put out at a business, which isn’t a great idea since fire spreads. So now we pay taxes to insure of that. I wouldn’t call fire departments as a failure.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18849 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:22 pm to
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the price of labor is dependant only on supply Vs demand.


What about the price of goods?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135536 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Can someone who actually knows what they are talking about please tell me if I am missing any of the assumptions that go into Roger's toy model?

Factors that influence market price:

Supply - The production and availability of the product.
Demand - The level of consumer desire and purchasing power for the product.
Input costs - Costs of labor, raw materials, components, production/assembly, transportation, etc. Higher input costs tend to raise market prices. Hello AwgustaDawg!
Competition - The number of sellers and degree of differentiation.
Marketing - Advertising, branding, distribution strength, and other marketing factors that can sway consumer willingness to pay.
Government policy - Regulations, taxes, tariffs, subsidies, and trade policies that intentionally or unintentionally impact pricing.
Consumer sentiment - Environment intersecting psychology and native demand.
Menu costs - The costs of changing prices can deter adjustments and contribute to price stickiness.
Collusion - Explicit or implicit agreements among firms to fix prices above competitive levels.

This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted by JackieDaytona
Member since Oct 2023
179 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
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This will put Waffle House at a competitive disadvantage to competitors, there is no way they can either absorb the cost, or pass it on and still be competitive.


Talk about wishcasting.

Unless you work there you can't say this for sure.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:30 pm to
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I love when Marxist pretend to understand the real world.


Almost as enjoyable as when dock loaders pretend they understand economics.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135536 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Unless you work there you can't say this for sure.
I guess your point is specific market knowledge trumps general market knowledge? One certainly could make that assessment without being employed at an individual Waffle House. Right?

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:48 pm to
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They better not frick up the price of the all star breakfast



PREACH.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:49 pm to
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I have never eaten at a Waffle House

Now we're just gonna have to change that.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98750 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:51 pm to
Unfortunately for the current employees, if they raise the wage to $25 they’ll be replaced by better employees

Look at Buccees
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296159 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Talk about wishcasting.

Unless you work there you can't say this for sure.


Whats the industry prevailing wage?
Posted by Buck Wylde
Member since Jun 2019
480 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:57 pm to
Pay raises should be based on knockouts. The better you can fight, the more you make.
Posted by JackieDaytona
Member since Oct 2023
179 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Whats the industry prevailing wage?


The guy who I know who works at WF makes $19 as a cook.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296159 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:11 pm to
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The guy who I know who works at WF makes $19 as a cook.


WF? Whole Foods? Not exactly competition.


Looks like the industry average for all restaurants is about $15. Waffle House and competitors would be in the bottom of the scale.

A 60% rise in labor costs will mean less business, fewer jobs. They will struggle to be competitive.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:12 pm to
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WF? Whole Foods? Not exactly competition.


Posted by JackieDaytona
Member since Oct 2023
179 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:26 pm to
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? Not exactly competition.


No. That was obviously a typo. Waffle House. Dude worked there in 2021 making 18.75 as a cook. Could be more now.

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60% rise in labor costs will mean less business, fewer jobs. They will struggle to be competitive.


You say this as you know for a fact. Maybe better service would raise revenue.

Most of these fast food chain could pay more in wages by cutting dividens.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135536 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Dude worked there in 2021 making 18.75 as a cook. Could be more now.
Good for him. That's $37.5K/yr and a bit high for most of the US, FWIW.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Most of these fast food chain could pay more in wages by cutting dividens.


You've done it now. Suggesting that companies might should settle for slightly lower profits sends bootlickers like Roger to the moon.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296159 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:40 pm to
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You say this as you know for a fact. Maybe better service would raise revenue.



Its Waffle House dude.

I do know for a fact that overpaying for labor will put you at a competitive disadvantage in industries with such small margins.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135536 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:52 pm to
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Suggesting that companies might should settle for slightly lower profits
Wild guess .... you've never run a business? .... Damn! .... Nailed it w/o knowing the first thing about you. It's like ... clairvoyance.
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