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Visited the Davidian compound site.

Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:35 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:35 pm
I don’t go through the Waco area often but made it a point today to take the detour to Mt Carmel. Not really a ton to see to the naked eye.

There’s a small chapel there now with memories posted on the walls. Some of the foundation to the original compound is still in place. I sat on the ‘pool’ and tried to meditate and look out as to what it may have been like.

The only thing that got under my skin were pictures of the FBI/ATF agents flexing and taking pictures over the ashes. I don’t care which side of the story you’re on, a lot of innocent people and kids died horrific deaths there.

Overall, humbling. Not worth going out of your way, but was a good visit driving thru.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69734 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:37 pm to
Two things can be true at the same time: David Karesh was certifiable and the ATF were pieces of shite for how they went about that whole situation.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
927 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:38 pm to
All could have been avoided by simply picking up David Koresh when he made his periodic trip into town. But no, they had to make it a dick measuring contest.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88728 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:39 pm to
Went to that place years ago. Surprisingly small. Stopped at a roadside bar/grill for a brew and directions. Two little old ladies that owned the place said Koresh frequented the place, would often play guitar and sing impromptu shows. They couldn’t say a bad thing about him nor a good thing about the Feds.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:42 pm to
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by simply picking up David Koresh


It’s my recollection they didn’t have proof or cause of anything. They did eventually get a search warrant then got into a gun fight. Lot of mistakes made. Sad situation.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88728 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:45 pm to
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All could have been avoided by simply picking up David Koresh when he made his periodic trip into town


this, they had plenty of opportunity but they wanted to Ruby Ridge him
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:52 pm to
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Two things can be true at the same time: David Karesh was certifiable and the ATF were pieces of shite for how they went about that whole situation.
Very true.

LE was fricking horrific, but also grown men shouldn’t be impregnating 14 year olds.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:08 pm to
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The only thing that got under my skin were pictures of the FBI/ATF agents flexing and taking pictures over the ashes.


Those are on the site?

Rip them up.

frick Lon Horiuchi.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:09 pm to
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But no, they had to make it a dick measuring contest.


It's worse than that.

The ATF was on the chopping block. They deliberately escalated at every point to try and justify their own existence.

ETA: Really, that's an excellent reason to hate Koresh even more. There was a potential future where he was not a piece of shite, or OD'ed on some grunge tour, or got shot in a gun deal, the siege never happens, and the ATF just doesn't fricking exist at all anymore.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 5:12 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15808 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:11 pm to
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Those are on the site?


Yes. Nothing on site supports Koresh. Mostly just history, but yes. Several pictures hanging of FBI/ATF agent standing over the ashes literally flexing like they accomplished something.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15808 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:12 pm to
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but also grown men shouldn’t be impregnating 14 year olds


Or burn them alive.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:13 pm to
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Yes. Nothing on site supports Koresh.


Good.

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Several pictures hanging of FBI/ATF agent standing over the ashes literally flexing like they accomplished something.


I wish the Davidians had claymores and IED's.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4189 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:13 pm to
Bill Clinton and his Atty General Janet "Butch" Reno named the siege on the compound Showtime - should tell you everything you need to know about the legitimacy of the attack
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:13 pm to
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Or burn them alive.


Or shoot an unarmed mother holding her baby.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15808 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:16 pm to
There was a lot of Clinton hate in the messaging
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 5:18 pm
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90527 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:17 pm to
Janet Reno should've been charged with murder.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29152 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Janet Reno


Quite possibly the ugliest woman in political history
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88728 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:27 pm to
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woman


has the jury returned a verdict on that?
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90527 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:32 pm to


Would give her a run for her money.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:39 pm to
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Two things can be true at the same time: David Karesh was certifiable and the ATF were pieces of shite for how they went about that whole situation.


It feels like this is the root of so many of our divides.

These national stories hit and we battle over good vs evil tropes when the truth is a lot of them are simply crazy meets crazy and we end up with a catastrophic outcome that reasonable people usually avoid with ease

We do not do well with “both sides messed up and lessons can be learned by everyone”
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