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re: Violent crime dropped an estimated 3% in the United States last year, FBI crime data shows
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:40 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:40 am to SlowFlowPro
You think it’s sad that North BR isn’t following the national trend of refusal to tally and prosecute?
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:41 am to upgrayedd
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You can only cover up so much.
That applies today, too.
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I actually think the numbers are much higher that was reported under a Dem admin and this was the best they could do.
I am not shocked to hear this is what you believe.
The same memes and talking points were used well before the Covid spike occurred, back when we were just in that trend of decreasing crime following the hell that was the 80s and early 90s. This decline occurred across multiple Democrat and Republican admins, too. Even then, people made the same silly arguments they're doubling down on today.
You can't have good news that opposes pre-conceived beliefs. It must be fake.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:41 am to upgrayedd
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SFP has made another miraculous 180 degree board personality shift and now assures us all that the govt wouldn’t lie to you.
180?
I've been arguing the same argument about crime decreasing since 2004
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:42 am to Gaggle
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You think it’s sad that North BR isn’t following the national trend of refusal to tally and prosecute?
No it's sad that BR isn't following the national trend of decreasing violent crimes. I wish they'd get their act together and join civilized society.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:42 am to RLDSC FAN
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The bureau received statistics from major police forces such as the New York and Los Angeles Police Departments.
Which likely means they didn’t incorporate that data. Why would they need to specify “received?”
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You can have manipulated data to counter your real world observation on the state of crime in cities in order to confirm your pre-conceived biases
You can't have good news that opposes pre-conceived beliefs. It must be fake.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:43 am to TDTOM
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When you don't report crimes the numbers go down.
There was a report not long ago out of New Orleans, they are so understaffed it was taking 10-12 hours to get to the hospital to take reports from rape victims. By the time they got there, victim was gone.
Poor, no violent crime reported. It never happened. I’m guessing this is going on thoughout the country after the Dems defund the police campaign…..
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:44 am to Gaggle
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in order to confirm your pre-conceived biases
What biases, exactly?
I said there was a post-Covid spike. Now crime is decreasing.
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real world observation
You're 1 step away from citing "common sense" to refute data
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:44 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:crime is not decreasing in SF or Philadelphia or any other major city. It’s increasing but it’s not being counted, prosecuted and reported. You have nothing to counter that notion except for accusing people of biases
No it's sad that BR isn't following the national trend of decreasing violent crimes
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:it’s not data like reading a scientific instrument. Don’t think for a second that it is. It requires human manipulation even when it is on the level. Phone calls have to be made, numbers have to be written, decisions have to be made by victims, cops and prosecutors. There is no unbiased objective data in this regard
You're 1 step away from citing "common sense" to refute data
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:47 am to Masterag
Los Angeles
NYC
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Violent crime overall in Los Angeles decreased more than 3% in 2023, officials said Wednesday.
Shootings were down 10% in 2023 compared to 2022. Homicides were also down by about 17%, from 392 victims in 2022 to 327 last year, according to data released by the Los Angeles Police Department.
For the first time since 2014, the number of traffic deaths, which increased by 8% to 336, surpassed homicides.
NYC
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Citywide in March 2024 compared to March 2023, overall crime dropped 5 percent, a reduction of 505 incidents. Continued declines were recorded across many bellwether crimes, including murder, down 19.4 percent (29 vs. 36); burglary, down 17.4 percent (1,005 vs. 1,217); and grand larceny, down 7 percent (3,883 vs. 4,176). Robbery was flat in March (1,264 vs. 1,264), while grand larceny auto – the theft of motor vehicles – declined for the fourth month in a row, down 10.9 percent (1,037 vs. 1,164). From January 1 through the end of the first quarter of 2024, major crime and violence throughout the five boroughs dropped 2.4 percent, a decrease of 711 incidents.
Shooting incidents in March 2024 were reduced 25.9 percent (63 vs. 85), equating to 29 fewer shooting victims compared to the same month last year (71 vs. 100), a 29 percent decrease. This correlates to 358 people arrested for possession of an illegal firearm, a 7.5 percent increase from the same period last year. Shooting incidents for the first quarter of 2024 compared to 2023 were down 18.5 percent (181 vs. 222), meaning that 56 fewer people (212 vs. 268) were shot in New York City since the start of the year, a 20.9 percent reduction.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:49 am to Gaggle
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crime is not decreasing in SF or Philadelphia
Philly
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Philadelphia is seeing some of its lowest violent crime rates in years. While city leaders believe more work remains, Police Commissioner Kevin Bethel is optimistic as crime in the city is at its lowest rate in over a decade.
"It's promising," Bethel said. "The city has endured a lot over these last three or four years. It's exciting to come out of the start of 2024, seeing almost 38% reduction in our homicides and more importantly, almost 42% reduction in our shootings."
The commissioner added there is a 50% decline in youth homicides.
San Fran
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According to SFPD crime data, property crime in the Richmond is down 3.8% from the same time last year. But that's a far cry from areas like the Northern district, which covers Alamo Square up through Pacific Heights and the Marina, where property crime is down a whopping 38%.
According to the city, violent crime is down 14% and gun violence is down 37%.
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You have nothing to counter that notion
Except facts, which I keep posting.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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You have nothing to counter that notion
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except facts
quote:No, this is the notion you can't counter. It was the sentence right before that you cut off. You can't prove those are actual facts because you can't prove they are not failing to report, count and prosecute crime. Try again.
It’s increasing but it’s not being counted, prosecuted and reported.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:53 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm a piece of shite for relying on the data reported by the cities themselves?
yes. you’re a piece of shite for relying on data you know is manipulated and coming here pretending as if anyone who argues it’s integrity is a conspiracy theorist. fricking pathetic.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:53 am to Gaggle
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this is the notion you can't counter
I did, pages ago.
Why did they manufacture a fake crime spike?
You're unable to answer this without changing your narrative
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:no, once again they reacted to a real crime spike
Why did they manufacture a fake crime spike?
You're unable to answer this without changing your narrative
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:55 am to Gaggle
and just to be clear a crime spike is not a binary thing. in reality it was probably much worse than what was even reported as it was in fact already being manipulated, so they doubled down their manipulation efforts
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:56 am to Gaggle
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once again they reacted to a real crime spike
That's changing your narrative, which included in the above post
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:57 am to TooFyeToFly
No one is pissed that violent crime has apparently been reduced…it’s just most conservatives on this board are smart enough not take the stats without context.
Did it decrease 3% due in part to different metrics or different ways of gathering data? Was it a 3% reduction after a 7% increase the previous year?
Are you simply an idiot who doesn’t require context when digesting information?
Did it decrease 3% due in part to different metrics or different ways of gathering data? Was it a 3% reduction after a 7% increase the previous year?
Are you simply an idiot who doesn’t require context when digesting information?
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