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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by Beaux Man
Satsuma, AL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:56 pm to
Love these watch threads. I buy Citizen and Seiko chronograph style watches from pawn shops myself. Wish I had a family heirloom like that. Awesome watch PLUS the family provenance. Resale value means nothing compared to sentimental value. PLEASE follow up to this thread or make another after you get it serviced and polished.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:01 pm to
errata: The movement in that watch is technically a Venus 175 as others have mentioned I tend to call the whole lineage of the 75 a 75 (including the Chinese variations) until I know enough about the movement to nail down the specific iteration. The 75 was upgraded to the 175 pre-war (maybe '41).
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:02 pm to
Here's the Patek. As you can see I also have the bonafides for it. First image is tough but it says 18k.







Posted by Newc
Member since Feb 2017
389 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:10 pm to
Looks like a 2501. A so-called Disco Volante. But that “Swiss” signature and grave accent look… a little funky. Could just be the magnification would like to see better pictures.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:12 pm to
PP 2501 probably early 50s. It is in a Wenger "Disco Volante" case which houses a Caliber 10-200. I have never seen one with a silver dial before which may or may not speak to the rarity.


Disco Volante is used by some exclusively for the 2552 reference but many also consider the 2501 case to be a DV. Much like the term Calatrava prior to Patek actually using it there is nor formal definition. This watch would be considered a Calatrava by many and not at all by others.
Posted by Newc
Member since Feb 2017
389 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:14 pm to
I, too, have never seen one in this configuration.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:18 pm to
Did a little research.

quote:

Your Patek Philippe should say SWISS on the dial, or other variants such as MADE IN SWITZERLAND or SWISS MADE depending on the era and market destination.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:21 pm to
The early 50s estimation seems accurate. He cashed in a life insurance policy in the early 50s purchase it. The man loved watches. We have quite the little collection of his including a very pretty dress Rolex from back in the day.
Posted by Newc
Member since Feb 2017
389 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:23 pm to
I’m realizing the size was inflated because of magnification. Lovely watch under any circumstance. I have a soft spot for, and collect, these old Pateks.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:24 pm to
Yeah. The value to us is in sentiment as he cherished his watches.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12110 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:24 pm to
I'd be careful about the restoration. If you send it to the wrong place, they will polish the gold to make it look like new. You may want a "sympathetic" restoration with minimal polishing. You gramps has used that watch and I for one wouldn't want it to look like a new one.

Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65334 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:42 pm to
He should be very very very specific about what he wants out of a servicing. I believe he knows how to set expectations on what he wants. He was smart enough to solicit input here which is a good step
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65334 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:45 pm to
Obtuse do you have an objection to meeting one day to look at your collection? I think I've established myself as a true WIS.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12012 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:14 pm to
Joke’s on you.
My man wears a Casio calculator watch and rides a modern Mongoose walmart bicycle. Don’t let his schtick fool you.










Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65334 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:05 am to
Stop man, I'm trying to get into his house so I can bonk him on the head and leave a million dollars richer. Hustler has to hustle. And fyi i own one of those Casio calculator watches. A fine watch!
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34402 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:12 am to
Check out Wristwatch Revival. I'll bet if you send him a story about what it meant to your grandfather (and you) he'll repair and service it as part of his YouTube channel.
Posted by tigerinexile
NYC
Member since Sep 2004
1509 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:32 am to
I was going to say the same thing he makes the best watch videos on YouTube
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90784 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:59 am to
My grandfather also rocked a twist-o-flex on his Omega.

I wonder if that has something to do with how well it would secure the watch to the wrist while also not cutting off the circulation if it was too tight?

I have a couple watches with bands that I wish had closer spaced notches; seems it's either too loose or too tight.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 8:01 am
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